Translation: “You’re obviously too smart for my primate-level intelligence, so I’m going to huddle in a corner and plug my ears.”
'Least I know how to run an operating system, you immature twit.
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Having a hard time trying to figure that out JET?
Saying “If you don’t like Microsoft, then don’t buy their products” is like saying “If you don’t like gasoline, buy an electric car.” In principle, people have choices, but in practice, there is damn little choice. Buying an electric car is technically an alternative to gasoline, but it’s impractical because there’s no infrastructure to support it.
In many parts of the software market, you really have no practical alternatives; it’s like being forced to buy an Escort because Ford doesn’t feel like manufacturing Mustangs. Whether Microsoft software sucks is really beside the point (in my opinion, Excel is great, Word blows, and Windows is a crime against nature.)
Only a chump would argue that there is any real choice in the software market. Microsoft promotes its own agenda at the expense of its customers’ needs, because it can.
It created Windows 98 specifically as a wrapper for Internet Explorer so it could kill Netscape.
Quicken was better than Microsoft Money, but instead of trying to improve Money to gain market share from Quicken, Microsoft tried to buy Quicken. Is that how the free market encourages innovation in software design?
Microsoft put DR-DOS (an old MS-DOS competitor) out of business by penalizing OEM computer makers who wanted to bundle their machines with DR-DOS instead of MS-DOS - they made the OEMs pay for MS-DOS even if MS-DOS wasn’t installed on their machines! The ability to do such a thing is prima facie evidence of a monopoly. Also, Microsoft put a “poison pill” in Windows 3.1 specifically so it wouldn’t work with DR-DOS; when other companies do that, it’s called “product tying” and is illegal.
Microsoft routinely releases “vaporware” - press information about software that doesn’t exist yet and may never exist - in order to dissuade consumers from buying other software. When other companies do that, it’s called “securities fraud”.
Microsoft gives its own software developers inside information about Windows that isn’t available to outside developers. “Product tying” again.
Is Microsoft really more evil than other software companies? Probably not - it’s just bigger. It does these things because it can.
Cnote, maybe I can channel Hastur…
Here goes nothing…
"Fucking nerds! How DARE they make something that operates outside of my comprehension capabilities! Fucking shit-eating glasses-nerd boy rich pussy-getting guy!
I gotta do something! Yeah! I’ll go whine and try to make myself look intelligent by talking out of my ass about something that I have no knowledge or understanding of! I’ll make fun of the evil tyrant Microsoft, everyone else is doing it!
Those bastardly stupid fucks! They SHOULDN’T put all the controls in one universal, convenient place! I want an Options menu in my program!
I know, I’ll bitch about the most insignificant and easily solved problem I encounter first. Hey, is that a sound? I didn’t select any sound! How dare that program change what it was programmed to change! I hate this shit, but I have to use it. I have to use it because everybody’s brain absorbed Windows code through osmosis and are now walking Windows executables! AAAAHHH!! The world is being overrun by Windows Destroyer Droids!
What? There’s a way to solve my problem? Well, FUCK THAT! I’ll bitch and moan that the way to solve the problem isn’t MY way to solve it!
What? I’m wrong?!? Well, uh, I can’t hear you! Nya nya nya, my fingers are in my ears! So fuck each other and Gates, because I won’t listen!"
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Ow…my head hurts. So, that’s what it feels like to be an idiot…
Okay, it’s understandable that JET and Hastur can easily be confused, but really, we don’t need two of them in the same thread. 
And City Gent, Macs admittedly have a steady base, and Linux has a very stable infrastructure. It can do just about everything Windows can do better, and it can do more. At least, I’m pretty sure of that. I haven’t had the chance to work with it yet, but I’ve been corrupted by my geek friends.
Then again, people of JET’s caliber would go postal trying to get Linux to run…
City Gent, sorry, but that’s a load of conspiracy theory bullshit.
Try telling any Linux user that there is no Linux infrastructure. Try to convince a Mac user that there is no Mac infrastructure, and they’ll tear you apart.
Then I guess said Linux and Mac users are just a load of chumps, huh? Wait…I would also have to include logical people in the “chumps” catagory as well. Stop speaking from your ass.
:rolleyes:
Maybe some examples are in order?
Wow, I’m about to take on a mentor!
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I like your posts and all, but really, “In principle, people have choices, but in practice, there is damn little choice”
Do you really believe that if that people were so put-off by Microsoft that it would still exist? Isn’t it easier to blame a company for it’s short-comings than to actually make something that operates or works better?
Because up until now, I don’t see anything that competes. Yeah, sure, bitch about their practices and all that, but aren’t all the ‘majors’ doing the competitive aggresive kill-all-who-fuck-with-us mentalitiy? Huh? AOL? Real Networks? God knows who else.
And if you really think that that lone individuals have no saying in anything in this market, than how do you explain the advent of Linux, Konguerer, and the countless others out there?
If you want to branch out on this thing into different areas, how about the airline business? Do you think their less cut-throat than the OS market? How many majors have the minors bankrupted?
I don’t need to fly, but if I want to, I have to fly a major.
Oops. This is what happens when Monster stays up a little late. I had forgotten I switched from the Hastur thread, who’s posting idiocy is very hard to distinguish when I’m tired.
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Linux user here. Sorry, but Linux is not ready for prime time. It’s hard to install and configure, many motherboards don’t like it, and there is a very limited base of “end-user” software. I use it only because I hate Microsoft, and I need a Un*x system to do number-crunching on (compatibility issues with my place of employment).
When I say there’s no infrastructure, I mean e.g. that if I send an email message with a Word attachment, it almost always can be read, while if I send a Postscript attachment, it almost always can’t. There’s a reason for that…
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Man, you must live in a cave…
http://detnews.com/1999/technology/9901/04/01040182.htm
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/content/smro/0128/279543.html
http://www.zdnet.com/sp/breaking/980518/980518c.html
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,9414,00.html
Yawwwn…bedtime.
Jeez, I was away from my computer for three hours on a Saturday night. You’d almost think that, like, I had a life or something. (Except I’ll admit it, I was sleeping.)
Not that it matters. Read this thread again and you’ll see that at approx. 2pm on 4/27/01 I posted that I just installed IE 5.5 – having a hard time figuring THAT one out???
God, I feel like a proctologist. Everywhere I turn, there’s another big smelly asshole in my face.
They’re called “mirrors”.
Then maybe you should pull your head out of your ass.
Alright you stuck-up pantywaists, since you’re all so smart and think IE is da bomb, tell me why the “stop” button appears to me purely decorative. Sometimes I’ll click on a link and then change my mind and hit “stop”, Netscape would obediently stop downloading the page but IE ignores me and grabs the page anyway. Oh, and that “asterisk” sound with the download dialog box is still fucking annoying me (and no, I don’t want to turn off the asterisk sound completely!)
All right, you snot-nosed whiner, maybe you should check your system settings. Or your resource level (right-click “My Computer”, click on “Properties”, click on “Performance”). If you resource levels are too low (running several programs at once) or if you don’t have much RAM or a very fast processor, things will get backed-up.
Another possibility is that your computer doesn’t like your assholicness, either. Perhaps you should grew an ounce of politeness and then see if your problems go away.
This is funny, SPOOFE, I actually agree with you this time. We all know that Microsoft products are like self-aware entities that are greedy and slothful and demand that you upgrade your hardware or they won’t run properly. (I vaguely remember a comic strip about this.) I’m running a 450mhz processor with very few programs in the background, just Norton AntiVirus and ICQ and that’s it. If IE can’t handle that, well that just proves my point that Microsoft makes pesky software that demands far too many resources. Netscape never had a problem, even on my old 486/66, although it would get sluggish if I had 10 programs running simultaneously.
I don’t care if my computer thinks I’m an asshole, as far as it is concerned I am GOD and any program that doesn’t conform to my design gets deleted. You’d be first in line for the Recycle Bin, if you were in my computer.
Uh, look folks. JET has a point. Windows (95, 98, 2000, and NT 4.0) suck serious ass.
I am not just blowing hot air here, either. I have about 15 computers here in the company thta I have to keep running. Windows does weird shit without provocation. It freaking crashes while doing nitnoid stuff, and when you try it again it works just fine. My favorites are the “Blue Screen Boots.” Somedays, you turn a PC on in the morning and it boots stright into a blue screen. NOT scan disk, I am talking about “Press Control Alt Delete” to continue here. This happens even when I know damned good and well that the machine was properly shut down the day before.
I don’t like windows. Did I mention that? I hate windows. Good point about using Linux, and I do at home (my house is 100% Microsoft free.) Doesn’t do shit for me at work, though. We have about 40 different programs from different two-way radio manufacturers for setting up and tuning different radios. Proprietary crap, runs only under DOS or windows. I have tried WINE and DOSEMU, but they can’t cut it with programs that directly manipulate the hardware. I am stuck with windows at work, and I fucking hate it.
Don’t even get me started ranting about Word. I use Lyx and LaTEX at home, and sometime Word Perfect. I am stuck with Word at work, too. We have a couple of hundred documents that were created using Word because my previous boss liked it. The Word file formats are so fucked up that Word can’t always read the files correctly, and you want to tell me that there is a conversion program out there that will let me use the files with another system? Not bloody fucking likely. I have tried. The results are usually pretty pathetic - I am talking complex documents here, not your average Fax or business letter but things with photos and diagramms and foot notes and lots of text. It doesn’t work.
Do you know how windows (all versions) deal with a bad sector on a hard drive? They crash when they try to read or write to the bad sector. Some of the most fun I ever had was with Jaz drives. The media go bad eventually, and windows splats when it hits a bad sector. Now image this: You have a Jaz drive with a couple of hundred files on it. You know the media is shot, but you need to get your data copied before it completely craps out. Try to copy the files with the explorer and somewhere in the middle of the process, it just goes “Splat!” and disappears and takes windows (NT 4.0 in this case) with it. You don’t even get a chance to see which file has the error. Even more fun was the 48 channel telephone call center recorder we installed for a customer in Portugal (I live in Germany.) We got called in what seemed like a zillion times to go and fix the damned thing, and for what? Because windows can’t gracefully handle a bad sector. The recorder used removable Magneto Optical media, and the guys had a collection of about forty of the things. They filed them for a certain length of time, and then recycled the media. Well, after a while they begin to develop bad sectors. No problem, you say. Use scandisk and have them marked, then you won’t have any trouble. Wrong. Using scandisk on an MO media with a bad sector crashes scandisk, and windows goes down with it. The recording of that 911 (I know, they don’t use 911 in Portugal, but its easier for the American readers if I phrase it that way) call that you need? Tough shit, windows was crapped out right then and nothing got recorded. I kept telling them to use another PC to format and scandisk the media before reusing, but the boss had taken the control station (PC with network connection to the recorder and MO drive for playback) into his office to use as his personal office machine, so the twits either reused un tested media, or killed the running system trying to run scandisk.
Internet explorer? No damn thanks. It comes from microsoft, and I am not going to voluntarily use any of their products. Netscape works just fine, and I find that most internet sites where Netscape has problems are full of so much crap that I would turn around and leave immediately anyway. I am not usually rooting through the Internet looking to be impressed by the snazzy pages with the newest tricks. I usually am looking for specific information - technical information, updates to programs, a utility program for some job or another, that kind of thing. Pages full of java, javascript, flash, damned nerve grating midi files tootling in the background, freaking animated blinking text with cutesy little animals chasing their tails (good German pun to be made here - the word for tail and a slange word for penis are the same) irritate the hell out of me.
Having said all of that, I have to agree that if JET can’t find out how to change the settings in the internet explorer, or silence the irritating noises, then he is not the computer expert he likes to think he is.
(P.S.
I am fully aware of the fact that several words in this rant should normally be capitalized. I purposely did not capitalize several microsfot related proper nouns. Microsoft and the names of its programs would besmirch the word proper. I consider neither the company nor the software to be in any wise “proper.”)
Oh, yeah.
My concept of the relation between computer user and computer is this:
The computer is private to my General. The private is allowed to protest insane orders, but it had damned well better be right else it faces courtmartial. In most cases, it should assume that the user knows what in the hell he wants, and the computer should hairy by god damned DO IT.
Well, I just want to point out a couple things. First, to give credit where it’s due, MS Word ain’t that bad. (Probably because I’ve used it for so long, I’m used to putting up with the weird shit it does.) Second, I never said I was a “computer expert”, I just said I was smarter with computers than the Average Joe. Recently I sent somebody a zip file, and they had no idea how to open it. Now THAT’S stupidity!
I’ve been lucky with Windows crashes, only corrupted the registry once, and I fixed it with a seven-month-old backup copy. I was actually quite proud of myself, I don’t know how I came up with what I did but it worked. I’ll bet SPOOFE would have just reformatted & reinstalled from scratch. Idiot.
Please.
If that were you on the other end you’d be in here bitching about this “compression” thing and why everything’s fucked up because it’s not like it used to be in the good 'ol days of the Apple ][e. “Hey! They used to just save the fucking file, ya know. Now you got to get all this fancy pancy compress shit. Zip this and unzip that. Fuck that! Open the Goddammed file already! That Bill Gates sure is fucked up because I can’t figure this shit out at all! Fuck him and fuck you! Now help me, please.”
Of course he does. It’s his means of communicating that point that suck ass.
Actually, I wouldn’t have corrupted the registry in the first place. In addition, I don’t make baseless assumptions about people. Idiot.
Again, I say… if IE is supposedly so horrible, why don’t you just use Netscape? “I can’t!” Why not? “Because…” Oh, I’ve already gone through all this. Learn to read, will ya, Jeremy?