# Middle-Earth books **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 31, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955 "2013-01-31T21:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Melien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Melien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melien)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/1 "2013-01-31T21:10:54Z")
Does anybody know wether there are any new books or movies about Middle-Earth forthcomeing? I am a Middle-Earth historion and especily want books on how to speak sindarin. I can’t seem to find any. If you know of any that are really Tolkien sindarin, not just fan-made, please let me know. ---
**Author:** ![FrankJBN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f0a364/32.png) [@FrankJBN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrankJBN)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/2 "2013-01-31T21:19:34Z")
Newest I know of is “Children of Hurin” I take it you already have “History of Middle-earth”? Unrelated to Middle-earth, but I just received “The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrun” for Christmas". I have 300 more pages of Foote’s" Civil War", then I can get to thes massive verse tales. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/3 "2013-01-31T21:22:33Z")
Any good ME fan fic, while I have a chance to ask? ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/4 "2013-01-31T21:41:55Z")
I am not into fanfic but I am sure you can find links to it at [theonering.net](http://theonering.net) this facebook page seems to find all new books published about Tolkien [Pieter Collier](https://www.facebook.com/pieter.collier) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/5 "2013-01-31T23:16:41Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Any good ME fan fic, while I have a chance to ask? You could try Terry Brooks… ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/6 "2013-01-31T23:25:43Z")
J.R.R. has really slacked off lately, must be relaxing and counting the money from the movies. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/7 "2013-01-31T23:50:29Z")
> [@Melien](#): > > Does anybody know wether there are any new books or movies about Middle-Earth forthcomeing? I am a Middle-Earth historion and especily want books on how to speak sindarin. I can’t seem to find any. If you know of any that are really Tolkien sindarin, not just fan-made, please let me know. There are many other Fantasy novels, if that is what you are asking. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/8 "2013-02-01T01:18:05Z")
The Re-Return of the King With Zombies? The Two Towers and Sea Monsters? ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/9 "2013-02-01T04:10:28Z")
First of all, no, the Tolkien estate will not authorize any sequels, prequels, or anything else Middle-earth-related by anyone. Second, you’ll find in this list everything that Tolkien wrote, including things that he only contributed to in a minor way. Page down in this link to find Tolkien’s stuff. It’s in alphabetical order by the author’s name: [http://home.earthlink.net/~dbratman/inklings.html](http://home.earthlink.net/~dbratman/inklings.html) ---
**Author:** ![Apocalypso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Apocalypso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apocalypso)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/10 "2013-02-02T20:19:52Z")
[QUOTE=Melien] Does anybody know wether there are any new books or movies about Middle-Earth forthcomeing? I am a Middle-Earth historion and especily want books on how to speak sindarin. I can’t seem to find any. If you know of any that are really Tolkien sindarin, not just fan-made, please let me know. [/QUOTE] I am having some trouble understanding your post but will try to answer your questions. If you are new to Tolkien’s works and would like to delve deeper into them, the basics are : **The Hobbit** **The Lord of the Rings** **The Children of Hurin** **The Silmarillion** **Unfinished Tales** **The Histories of Middle Earth (volumes 1-10)** **The Book of Lost Tales (1 and 2)** _The Silmarillion_ and _Unfinished Tales_ both contain unfinished and fragmented stories. Both have earlier and slightly different versions of _The Children of Hurin_, which Christopher Tolkien pieced together from his father’s writings. Apparently JRR Tolkien intended to have at least 3 great origin stories that delved into the earlier past of Middle Earth. The Children of Hurin was the only one that was close to completion, and (according to Christopher Tolkien) the only one that will be published. Christopher Tolkien is the keeper of his fathers literary estate and organized The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, The Children of Hurin, etc., for publication after his father’s death. Christopher is NOT continuing his father’s writings in Middle Earth, and the Tolkien Estate has not authorized any other writers to do so. I think the notes for the Children of Hurin, Christopher indicated that nothing else his father wrote was complete enough to be published. So there will be no new books forthcoming. There have been a few movies: The Hobbit animated movie (1977 Rankin-Bass) The Lord of the rings animated movie (1978 Ralph Bakshi) - despite the name it only has the Fellowship and The Two Towers. The Return of the King animated movie (1980 Rankin-Bass) The Lord of the Rings trilogy (Peter Jackson) The Hobbit Trilogy (Peter Jackson) part two should hopefully be out around the end of 2013 To the second part of your question, I do not know if Tolkien himself wrote any guides to his languages, but there are some books written by other authors about Tolkien’s languages. I am not sure if any of them give you enough information to learn Sinardin, but it’s a start. You might also consider posting this question to [theonering.net](http://theonering.net). [The Languages of Tolkien’s Middle-Earth by Ruth Noel](http://www.amazon.com/Languages-Tolkiens-Middle-Earth-Ruth-Noel/dp/0395291305/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359835381&sr=1-1&keywords=languages+of+middle+earth) [An Introduction to Elvish, Other Tongues, Proper Names and Writing Systems of the Third Age of the Western Lands of Middle-Earth as Set Forth in the Published Writings of Professor John Ronald Reuel Tolkien by Jim Allan](http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Middle-Earth-Published-Writings-Professor/dp/0905220102/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359835381&sr=1-2&keywords=languages+of+middle+earth) [The History of Middle-Earth: The Unofficial Guide to the Languages, People, and Books of Middle-Earth by Jennifer Warner](http://www.amazon.com/History-Middle-Earth-Unofficial-Languages-People/dp/1481135929/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359835381&sr=1-3&keywords=languages+of+middle+earth) ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/11 "2013-02-02T20:48:04Z")
Here’s a list of secondary works on Tolkien’s life and writings: [http://www.mythsoc.org/inklings/](http://www.mythsoc.org/inklings/) Here’s a list of things relevant to Tolkien’s invented languages: [http://www.elvish.org/resources.html](http://www.elvish.org/resources.html) ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Eyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4491bb/32.png) [@Orca\_Eyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orca_Eyes)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/12 "2013-02-03T01:04:20Z")
I recently ordered The Children of Hurin. It’s a really good book. I have so many Tolkien books (surprisingly, I don’t have The Hobbit, but I’ve read it). ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/13 "2013-02-03T01:38:09Z")
If what you want to do is serious, thorough research on Tolkien languages, these are the people who do it: [http://www.elvish.org/](http://www.elvish.org/) These are not typical bozo fans. They work with Christopher Tolkien on studying Tolkien’s languages. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/14 "2013-02-03T02:08:39Z")
As to learning Sindarin, I have this book: [http://www.amazon.com/Gateway-Sindarin-Grammar-Language-Tolkiens/dp/0874809126/ref=sr\_1\_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359857181&sr=8-1&keywords=gateway+sindarin+salo](http://www.amazon.com/Gateway-Sindarin-Grammar-Language-Tolkiens/dp/0874809126/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359857181&sr=8-1&keywords=gateway+sindarin+salo). I have no idea why it’s so expensive now; I only bought my copy three or four years ago for $15 IIRC, and it’s pretty good. The author helped Peter Jackson with Sindarin and other Middle-earth languages for the LOTR movies. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/15 "2013-02-03T02:16:09Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > As to learning Sindarin, I have this book: [A Gateway to Sindarin: A Grammar of an Elvish Language from JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Rings: Salo, David: 9780874809121: Amazon.com: Books](http://www.amazon.com/Gateway-Sindarin-Grammar-Language-Tolkiens/dp/0874809126/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359857181&sr=8-1&keywords=gateway+sindarin+salo). I have no idea why it’s so expensive now; I only bought my copy three or four years ago for $15 IIRC, and it’s pretty good. The author helped Peter Jackson with Sindarin and other Middle-earth languages for the LOTR movies. I see you can get it directly from the Univ. of Utah Press for just $35, a lot better than on Amazon: [http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/upcat/id/1204/rec/1](http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/upcat/id/1204/rec/1) ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/16 "2013-02-03T02:34:58Z")
[Atlas of Middle Earth](http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Middle-Earth-Revised-Karen-Fonstad/dp/0618126996) is a must for a serious student of JRRT’s Middle Earth writings. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-books/648955/17 "2013-02-03T14:09:45Z")
I’m still thinking he wants Fantasy novels, but is too unfamiliar with the genre to ask for them that way.