# Middle Earth FA63 D&D Game, the Game itself

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**Tags:** middle-earth-game\
**Created:** [March 3, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917 "2008-03-03T04:52:05Z")\
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[QUOTE=glee]  
Ghân thanks the Sergeant, dons the rig and checks that his Owl is happy to travel in it during the day.  
(If the Owl doesn’t have a name, Ghân will call him ‘Brownie’ - in honour of Radagast.)  
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Brownie will work, the Owl has no name in any human language and can understand the sounds of Brownie, though he cannot say them.

Moose, “Moose happy to guard Dwarf backs, Moose only quiet in woods, never in open or rock. No one can sneak up on Moose, not even Elves”

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_Brin_: I’m used to being in the advance party. I will go up ahead.

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I’m happy to be in the middle of the advance party

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/364 "2008-03-13T14:32:16Z")

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If we value stealth at all, I should probably not be in the advance party. In chain mail, and with my horse in chain mail, I probably sound like a troll dragging a bag of coins.

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
If we value stealth at all, I should probably not be in the advance party. In chain mail, and with my horse in chain mail, I probably sound like a troll dragging a bag of coins.  
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No horse where you are going. Only mountain ponies, goats or Moose.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/366 "2008-03-13T14:41:44Z")

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Thoroncir, slightly offended by the suggestion that he’s noisy, will be glad to be in the rearguard, if that seems best.

What should I do with my light warhorse, Seafoam?

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
No horse where you are going. Only mountain ponies, goats or Moose.  
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**Theogrim** quietly pines for the seas of grass and wide open spaces of Rohan.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/368 "2008-03-13T14:50:56Z")

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The company of men is camping near the road where the party heads up into the hills. They are guarding and caring for any horses that need guarding. The company is 30 strong and will have relief on a regular basis until you report back. If you don’t report back, expect a rescue party eventually. If plans change radically, send a note back with your trained hawk.

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Thoroncir gives Seafoam a carrot or its Middle-earth equivalent, strokes her nose affectionately, and leaves her for the nonce with the well-armed Men in the encampment.

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Gwaelur will gladly take point position of the rear party. It is more dangerous, and that is just how he likes it.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/371 "2008-03-13T17:03:47Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]

Ghân suggest that he and Deor join the advance group:

- Deor can use Folca to scout, Ghân can Speak to Animals
- the casters can stick together (neither have noisy armour)

Both Ghân and Deor in the middle, please. Moose offers to take the rearguard.  
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I’m quite on the edge about this; I’m not an especially sneaky person and I’ll be little help in covering a retreat if we need to. I’ll come if everyone else thinks it’s a good idea.

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Gwaelur will gladly take point position of the rear party. It is more dangerous, and that is just how he likes it.  
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More dangerous than the front? Still, Brin is probably best suited to lead the advance party (highest HPs, best attacks).

I think the advance should be Ghân, Starshine\*, and Brin. I don’t know enough about Caramir, but maybe he should join.

- 😛

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
More dangerous than the front? Still, Brin is probably best suited to lead the advance party (highest HPs, best attacks).

I think the advance should be Ghân, Starshine\*, and Brin. I don’t know enough about Caramir, but maybe he should join.

- 😛  
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I would gladly join the advance party if you don’t think I will slow you down and give away your position. You may need a fighter up there with you. But I wouldn’t want to hinder the main mission of the advance party.

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Some one please complain if they don’t like this.

The party is fully armored of course. Brin, do you have a weapon out, are you carrying that cast off orc shield or preparing for two-weapon combat?  
I need to know if someone wants a different position and what weapon(s) you have ready.  
Let me know if five ponies are too much. I could see only taking a few instead or you could go up to eight with the back three dwarves each leading two instead.  
Merry has to have at least one spare; therefore two is the absolute minimum.

Brin (Tracking)  
Caramir (bow ready & checking for side tracks)  
Gil-Gandel (bow ready)  
Ghân (Owl on shoulder)  
Deor (nervous)  
Mulligan  
Nanthor (bow ready)

**A ¼ mile back (44”)**  
Gwaelur  
Merry (On \*pony \* and Bow ready)  
Gimli  
Jari  
Thoroncir  
Theogrim  
_Pony_  
Brúni  
_Pony_  
Víli  
_Pony_  
Náli  
_Pony_  
Moose

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Apart from having a sling at the ready, seems fine by me.

I will not flick stones around  
I will not flick stones around

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I should probably have my x bow ready and my war axe and shield nearby. I should be able to see an attack and fire a bolt or 2 before we get to melee, at which point I will switch to axe and shield.

(this seems like it is going to be a running theme until we get to some bigger foes who will need the use of my 2 hander)

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Given group composition and ready armament, I’ll be the last stand between the spellcasters (& scout) and any foes. I’ll go sword and shield - I will want the extra protection if I’m must stand fast.

Flick stones around. I’d love the opportunity to say “Fool of a Took!”

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I’d say give me a hundred yards start - I will back my chances of spotting any Orc in this country over his of spotting me, especially in daylight which they are not over-fond of, and I am far quieter than anyone here except Mulligan. I’ll pause periodically to check with the trackers that we are still on course, and make sure said trackers don’t get bounced while they’re tracking. (That said, Rangers are not easily taken unawares.) I’m willing to listen to opinions, though.

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But I’m not a Ranger of Ithilien…

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/380 "2008-03-14T02:53:40Z")

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[QUOTE=appleciders]  
I’m quite on the edge about this; I’m not an especially sneaky person and I’ll be little help in covering a retreat if we need to. I’ll come if everyone else thinks it’s a good idea.  
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You are quite right to be cautious!

Ghân thinks it’s OK for Deor to be in the advance group because:

- we are pretty tough
- the heavy mob (no, Gwaelur, that’s isn’t aimed at dwarves!) are not far away
- the noisy mob are at least as likely to be attacked
- almost all the healers are in the advance mob

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