# Middle Earth FA63 D&D Game, the Game itself

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Tags:** middle-earth-game\
**Created:** [March 3, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917 "2008-03-03T04:52:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/961 "2008-04-05T12:01:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
If you want, Thoroncir could go armorless and be the designated dude for Enlarge spells whenever we go into battle.  
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Ghân: “That’s typically brave of you, but you don’t want to be standing unarmoured waiting for a spell when Hunter-Killers are about.  
I think Deor has an excellent selection of spells, but sadly not too many slots.  
I would rank Shield, Sleep and Magic Missile all above Enlarge.  
Also these are going to be difficult conditions for our Mage, and he may need to think of being Invisible almost all the time…”

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/962 "2008-04-05T12:03:03Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Last I checked, Sleep has a 50% chance of dropping these Hunter Killers outright. Just like an Ogre. I think I would still load a sleep spell.

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I would be **very** nervous about casting a spell that only worked 50% of the time when facing a Hunter-Killer that could kill me in one round.

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/963 "2008-04-05T18:03:47Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
I would be **very** nervous about casting a spell that only worked 50% of the time when facing a Hunter-Killer that could kill me in one round.  
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I’d be perfectly willing to try Sleep on Hunter-Killers (50% isn’t great but if it allows Theogrim a coup-de-grace then it’s worth it) except that it negates Invisibility. I’m planning to spend this trip mostly Invisible and so Sleep may not be the best choice.

Enlarge, however, is a 2nd level spell, and I can load it without effecting the others you listed.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/964 "2008-04-05T18:13:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
If you want, Thoroncir could go armorless and be the designated dude for Enlarge spells whenever we go into battle.  
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Designate me, I’m armourless anyway. Also [munchkin]I double-wield, and therefore stand to get twice the benefit out of any damage bonus[/munchkin].

[QUOTE=appleciders]  
Enlarge, however, is a 2nd level spell, and I can load it without effecting the others you listed.  
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No, it isn’t. Strength is second, Enlarge is first.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/965 "2008-04-05T18:48:05Z")

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[QUOTE=appleciders]  
I’d be perfectly willing to try Sleep on Hunter-Killers (50% isn’t great but if it allows Theogrim a coup-de-grace then it’s worth it) except that it negates Invisibility. I’m planning to spend this trip mostly Invisible and so Sleep may not be the best choice.

Enlarge, however, is a 2nd level spell, and I can load it without effecting the others you listed.  
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I agree about Deor being Invisible as much as possible, but perhaps carry one Sleep for emergencies?

(As Malacandra points out, [COLOR=Blue]Enlarge is 1st level.)[/COLOR]

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/966 "2008-04-05T19:17:50Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
I agree about Deor being Invisible as much as possible, but perhaps carry one Sleep for emergencies?

(As Malacandra points out, [COLOR=Blue]Enlarge is 1st level.)[/COLOR]  
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Whoops, misremembered. Under **What Exit?**'s liberal casting preparation rules, I probably will carry sleep anyway.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/967 "2008-04-05T21:01:48Z")

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Perhaps we should have this thread closed now?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-the-game-itself/439917/968 "2020-09-30T14:14:11Z")

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