This is precisely why we came up with the term “fly-over states”. Much less confusing.
Is Chicago a “liberal-happy hippy college town” or does it get it’s own designation?
That you know of.
The best apples, sweet corn, and tomatoes in the world are grown in the midwest. I live in S. GA now, and these three are the things I miss most.
It’s the fucking Midwest. Get over yourself.
Arizona is part of the Southwest. IME, “the South” generally refers to states (that were states at the time of the Civil War) that seceeded to join the Confederacy.
Born and raised in Milwaukee and have lived here since for over a quarter-decade now; I’ve never heard this.
Midwest doesn’t exist anymore; or rather, it shortly won’t, even in name. And the true spirit of Midwest died years ago, when they stopped having two-across leather seats and real meals with real china and flatware.
… Like, as in, “bring a hot dish to pass”? That would mean bring something that’s, you know, hot, versus something cold like a salad.
AFAIK, Midwest-Midwest flights still serve them. But a Midwest-operated-by-Frontier flight wouldn’t.
Guess Milwaukee isn’t part of the Midwest anymore, then.
Welcome to everywhere in the fucking country.
If you drive five miles east of Los Angeles, you do not find yourself smack dab in the middle of Jesus town. Fives miles outside of Minneapolis, and you’ll be cold, terrified, and hoping you’ll make it out alive.
Hotdish isn’t a reference to temperature. It’s a casserole. And it’s not a term used all over the Midwest.
Flatness? Outside of Madison? Pshaw! That’s the Driftless Area. Dairy farmers have to use use flat-sided milking cans, or else if they get kicked over and start rolling they’ll never be seen again.
No ethic food? Here’s the dinner menu at Mader’s restaurant in Milwaukee. Here’s Tony Paco’s in Toledo.
And the bar food in Wisconsin? Swiss cheese and brown mustard on rye; cabbage rolls, pickled eggs, pickled herring, landjaeger sausage: a smoked sausage that’s been cured into beef jerky.
nevermind, I got nuthin’.
Incidentally, I feel a little guilty using the term “ethnic food”, since, just as everyone has an accent, everyone has an ethnicity. So let me clarify what I think we all understand “ethnic food” to be code for: non-white people food.
You want California’s Central Valley? You can have it.
Yes, I assumed Bakersfield was going to come up at some point.
Well, here’s the basics (and someone correct me if I’m wrong)–Obama was addressing a group of farmers in Iowa and was trying to say something about how some crops sell at really high prices. He mentioned arugula prices at Whole Foods.
Some commentators tried to use this as evidence that Obama was an elitist who ate highfalutin salad greens and clearly couldn’t relate to a heartland farmer. After all, why would he think that these “real Americans” have ever even heard of exotic greens such as arugula and bleeding-heart liberal stores such as Whole Foods?"
Which led to a lot of angry rebuttals from Iowans. They were like “what do you think we are? Stupid? We may not eat a lot of arugula, and we may not have a Whole Foods in the state, but we know what they are for pete’s sake!”
Anyway, it was an interesting episode in the campaign as it illustrated a lot of the various tensions and subtexts and so forth.
Personally, I think it was terribly insulting to Iowans. Obama could indeed have presented it better because his comments did fall flat with the crowd he was addressing. But not because these people were scared of salad greens other than iceberg lettuce.
Don’t be ridiculous. The best tomatoes are grown in New Jersey.
Well, the Braves used to be in the National League West, while the Pirates were in the East. But the alignment is right now.
It’s topography, not longitude.
The first major division between the East and the (Mid)West are the Allegheny and Cumberland Mountains. Pittsburgh is west of the beginning of this first westward frontier; Atlanta is east and south.
The current alignment is geographically sound. New York, Toronto, Philadelphia, Miami, and Atlanta, are all geographically to the east of all the other cities with clubs in the league.
Prior to 1994, Atlanta and Cincinnati were in the western division and Chicago and St. Louis were in the eastern division. It made no sense.
I thought hotdish was a Minnesota term, not a more general Midwestern (ha!) one. My stepdad is from there, I had never heard it before he came along. I grew up on several variations of the dish, all called “casserole.” Yum.
And bars are awesome!
Or “Stuff White People [ironically] Like”.
Actually, most of the freaky Jesus types can be found right on Hollywood and Sunset, screeching out doom and destruction to passers-by, which is why most residents know to take the north/south streets in and out of the area between Fairfax and Western.
CV was originally a part of Kansas and Nebraska that was reallocated as a little known side provision of the Gadsden Purchase. Culturally and linguistically it is still classified as being a part of the Midwest despite its present location between the Coastal Ranges and the Sierra Nevadas, and in fact recent researches by leading geophysical cosmologists have detected stable wormholes between Fresno and Dubuque, Sacramento and Topeka, Redding and Sioux Falls, and Modesto and Joplin.
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LA sprawls a hell of a lot more. You can’t just call the city limits the “end” of it. You bet your ass rural California is just as weird as rural Minnesota. (I should know–I have family who live there.)
Ignorance fought. Why the hell can’t they just call it a casserole like normal people?
:rolleyes:
Come visit sometime, and I’ll take you to a *single block *where you have to choose among the best Thai (technically Thai-Lao), the best Middle Eastern (Turkish), and the best East African (Ethiopian) in the city.
He should have just called it rocket lettuce.
Atlanta is actually further west than Pittsburgh.
Complaining about the midwest not being far enough west is as stupid as complaining that the middle east isn’t far enough east. I mean shouldn’t it be in the middle of China or something?