# Might as well give in to despair. We're fucked. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 9, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253 "2016-11-09T19:14:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/21 "2016-11-09T21:50:27Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > No, no, there’s no reason to live anymore. There’s nothing to look forward to except death. No hope, no future for your kids or anyone you care about. Who cares if coral gets bleached or the ground gets fracked anymore? What’s the point? > > Join everyone else in their despair. Spread the despair as far and wide as you can. The only thing you can do now is make everyone face harsh reality and sit down and wait to die with you. Piglet: Hey, Eeyore! Everyone’s going with Pooh to get honey! Eeyore: Go ahead. Its sweet taste can only remind us of death’s bitter meal. Yet might not the sting of the bee remind us that we are alive? True – but the bee, having made its stand, is repaid with death. Thus does his acte gratuit, his gesture to demonstrate that his free will is the very thing that sets him apart, is mocked by the silence of the tomb. No exit, Piglet. No exit. Piglet: Oh, OK, whatever. James Lileks, 2004 ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/22 "2016-11-09T21:51:34Z")
> [@Neo-Calredic](#): > > What happened last night will negatively affect this country for decades. Misogyny, ignorance, hatred, and mindless fear of The Other all won last night, with Donald Trump as their avatar. More than half the country has so little regard for anyone who isn’t a straight white male that they have handed control of the entire government to a man who is beneath contempt. Anyone who is not a straight white male just learned that the majority of their countrymen don’t care about them or their well-being. > > I don’t think we come back from this one, guys. The sun has just set on America as we once knew it, and the darkness is coming. The ACA will soon be a distant memory, to be replaced with… nothing, probably. Pay for it all yourself, or die quietly and stop burdening your betters. Planned Parenthood will be de-funded. They will go after Roe v. Wade with everything they have. Gay marriage will be outlawed. White supremacy will be publicly legitimized. The regressive idiots have their mandate now, and they will do everything they can to reshape this country to fit their small-minded image of what it’s “supposed to” look like. > > They get two years to enact whatever lunatic whims they want, and there is nothing to stop them. They will gerrymander the shit out of every district they can, and push through every restriction on voting they can get away with. They will do anything and everything they can to make sure they never lose again. And more Dems than Repubs are up for re-election in two years, so if anything, Congress is likely to only move further rightward. > > I’m trying to hold onto hope here, but I just don’t see any. With the exception of the civil war, this is about as fucked at this country has ever been. We’ve just seen ironclad proof that the majority of people in this country are willing to give control to a shameless demagogue and his supporters. This horrible election just became the new normal in America, because now there’s no doubt that Trump’s approach **works.** > > It was bad when Bush II got re-elected, but it at least felt like that would end. This feels more like a paradigm shift, and the implications are truly horrifying. And of course, there are those of us who call bullshit on this whining. I’m a small business owner. I’m looking forward to having a pro-business President rather than the anti-business jerk that is currently squatting in the White House. If Hillary had been elected, it would have only gotten worse, and a bunch of us would have to close our doors. So, no - not everyone is all gloom and doom. Most of us see some sunshine after 8 long years of misery. ---
**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/23 "2016-11-09T22:07:16Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > And of course, there are those of us who call bullshit on this whining. > > I’m a small business owner. I’m looking forward to having a pro-business President rather than the anti-business jerk that is currently squatting in the White House. If Hillary had been elected, it would have only gotten worse, and a bunch of us would have to close our doors. > > So, no - not everyone is all gloom and doom. Most of us see some sunshine after 8 long years of misery. I’m sure that will be of great comfort to all the people of color, non-straights, and women who just had vitriol and violence against them legitimized by the election of a candidate who’s a self-confessed sexual predator openly supported by the KKK. Thank god straight white guys can go back to safely making money and not having to worry so much about what the bitches, queers, and darkies think. ---
**Author:** ![Kamaski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@Kamaski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamaski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/24 "2016-11-09T22:27:15Z")
There are some us who believe America is for Americans, Asia is for Asians and Africa is for Africans. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/25 "2016-11-09T22:34:09Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There are some us who believe America is for Americans, Asia is for Asians and Africa is for Africans. :dubious: Are you saying you are one of those? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/26 "2016-11-09T22:36:35Z")
Well, it’s great that he wants Caucasians in the U.S. to leave for Europe and leave America for the original natives. At least that shows some consistency. ---
**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/27 "2016-11-09T22:44:08Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There are some us who believe America is for Americans, Asia is for Asians and Africa is for Africans. And those who think that are repugnant. Diversity is one of the cornerstones that once made America great. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/28 "2016-11-09T22:48:26Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There are some us who believe America is for Americans, Asia is for Asians and Africa is for Africans. Yes. And they are worthless assholes, and there are far too many worthless assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/29 "2016-11-09T22:49:45Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There are some us who believe America is for Americans, Asia is for Asians and Africa is for Africans. > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > :dubious: Are you saying you are one of those? Given his posting history, I am pretty sure he is one of the former. Though whether that means he’s a native American or just really bad at history is open to question. > [@Trump voters: what do you expect and want to happen in the next four years?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-what-do-you-expect-and-want-to-happen-in-the-next-four-years/771135/13): > > I would like the Mexicans to be deported, the jobs back from China, blacks to respect whites again and women kept in the kitchen. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/30 "2016-11-09T22:52:46Z")
> [@Trump voters: what do you expect and want to happen in the next four years?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-what-do-you-expect-and-want-to-happen-in-the-next-four-years/771135/13): > > I would like the Mexicans to be deported, the jobs back from China, blacks to respect whites again and women kept in the kitchen. ^^^ I wonder who this genius voted for yesterday? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/31 "2016-11-09T22:55:48Z")
> [@Neo-Calredic](#): > > What happened last night will negatively affect this country for decades. Bollocks. You get a do-over in 4 years. > [@](#): > > Misogyny, ignorance, hatred, and mindless fear of The Other all won last night, Bollocks. People voted for Trump for many different reasons. Precious few voted for him because he’s Trump. > [@](#): > > with Donald Trump as their avatar. This at least is correct. It could have been Ming the Merciless and he’d still have won. > [@](#): > > More than half the country has so little regard for anyone who isn’t a straight white male that they have handed control of the entire government to a man who is beneath contempt. Anyone who is not a straight white male just learned that the majority of their countrymen don’t care about them or their well-being. Drivel and denial. 1/10 Come back when you’re out of the denial phase. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/32 "2016-11-09T22:55:51Z")
I saw that, but the last clause seemed too over the top to me. I still don’t know if it’s serious. ---
**Author:** ![Kamaski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@Kamaski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamaski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/33 "2016-11-09T23:06:57Z")
> [@Neo-Calredic](#): > > And those who think that are repugnant. Diversity is one of the cornerstones that once made America great. There is no reason to think minorities enhance America as a country. In fact America would be much stronger globally if it had no minorities at all, while also seeing a dramatic drop in crime and not needing to support the overwhelming number of blacks in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/34 "2016-11-09T23:13:45Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Bollocks. You get a do-over in 4 years. Do we get a do-over on the supreme court justice(s) he’ll get to appoint? > [@](#): > > Bollocks. People voted for Trump for many different reasons. Precious few voted for him because he’s Trump. Oh yes, Trump’s appeal was surely based mostly on his clearly established policies, rather than constant appeals to the mindless fears of the aging white electorate. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > This at least is correct. It could have been Ming the Merciless and he’d still have won. Comforting to know that half of this country’s voters are so carefully discerning in their choices. Speaks volumes in regards to their sane, level-headed judgement. ---
**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/35 "2016-11-09T23:14:50Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There is no reason to think minorities enhance America as a country. In fact America would be much stronger globally if it had no minorities at all, while also seeing a dramatic drop in crime and not needing to support the overwhelming number of blacks in prison. We could definitely do without the minority of people who think like you. I’ll definitely agree with that. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/36 "2016-11-09T23:24:50Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > As many of you know, I’m not even an American, I’m Canadian, Being in Canada isn’t going to protect you. I’ve heard that Trump already has the nuke codes and has told Obama he will be launching then on Canada and Mexico at 9PM eastern. The civil war that is about to break out will spill over into Canada causing mass casualties. Trump will not only murder every brown person in America but in all of North America. Every single Muslim on the continent will be labeled a terrorist and be sent to Guantanamo for execution. Women will be made by force to line up to get groped by Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/37 "2016-11-09T23:38:11Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Bollocks. You get a do-over in 4 years. Well, probably. But I think people don’t understand how very possible it is for things like voting rights to recede. It has happened before, and white nationalism was exactly what did it. The country has not always moved forward on such issues. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/38 "2016-11-09T23:43:50Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There is no reason to think minorities enhance America as a country. In fact America would be much stronger globally if it had no minorities at all, while also seeing a dramatic drop in crime and not needing to support the overwhelming number of blacks in prison. Well, brain-dead racist dipshits like you certainly don’t enhance any country they happen to infest. Who _ **did** _ you vote for yesterday, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/39 "2016-11-09T23:46:01Z")
> [@Neo-Calredic](#): > > Do we get a do-over on the supreme court justice(s) he’ll get to appoint? Or on the ecological damage resulting from his policies? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/40 "2016-11-09T23:47:15Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Being in Canada isn’t going to protect you. I’ve heard that Trump already has the nuke codes and has told Obama he will be launching then on Canada and Mexico at 9PM eastern. The civil war that is about to break out will spill over into Canada causing mass casualties. Trump will not only murder every brown person in America but in all of North America. Every single Muslim on the continent will be labeled a terrorist and be sent to Guantanamo for execution. Women will be made by force to line up to get groped by Trump. Ha ha, you are so edgy. As your largest trading partner, however, we certainly will be impacted by the upcoming idiotic economic policies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253.md?page=3)