# Might as well give in to despair. We're fucked. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 9, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253 "2016-11-09T19:14:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/41 "2016-11-09T23:48:22Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Well, brain-dead racist dipshits like you certainly don’t enhance any country they happen to infest. Who _ **did** _ you vote for yesterday, anyway? Troll the Magnificent. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/42 "2016-11-10T00:08:01Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There is no reason to think minorities enhance America as a country. In fact America would be much stronger globally if it had no minorities at all, while also seeing a dramatic drop in crime and not needing to support the overwhelming number of blacks in prison. It would also only be filled with Native Americans too. So I take it you are one? What tribe? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/43 "2016-11-10T00:13:13Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There are some us who believe America is for Americans, Asia is for Asians and Africa is for Africans. So I take it you’ll be heading back to Europe, then, so the Americans can have their land back that we took from them? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/44 "2016-11-10T00:25:57Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There are some us who believe America is for Americans, Asia is for Asians and Africa is for Africans. Me too! But since I don’t believe that list is exhaustive – that is, I ALSO believe America is for Asians, and Africans; Africa is for Americans and Asians; and Asia is for Africans and Americans – I suspect I don’t agree with you. Nor is my list complete: a more general rule is that any individual’s genetic heritage or national origin is not a relevant factor in what continent he is “for,” whatever that even means. So what is it you believe, specifically? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/45 "2016-11-10T00:27:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > So I take it you’ll be heading back to Europe, then, so the Americans can have their land back that we took from them? Hell no. They don’t have a flag. [/Eddie Izzard] ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/46 "2016-11-10T00:31:37Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There are some us who believe America is for Americans, Asia is for Asians and Africa is for Africans. Then unless you’re a Native American, you better haul ass back to Europe. Just sayin’. Or back under your bridge, more likely. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/47 "2016-11-10T00:36:40Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > [Chill, guys.](http://www.cracked.com/blog/dont-panic/) We’re supposed to feel better and think people aren’t that bad based on polls and surveys? Rully? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/48 "2016-11-10T00:44:35Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > We’re supposed to feel better and think people aren’t that bad based on polls and surveys? Rully? Why not? Polls and surveys are invariably accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/49 "2016-11-10T01:04:41Z")
I find it hilarious that this thread was started up just when I posted something appropriately connected in MPSIMS. It’s like… felicity. Let me know when you want me to join you on the death-watch. Just be warned, it might take me a bit to respond. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/50 "2016-11-10T01:45:22Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There are some us who believe America is for Americans, Asia is for Asians and Africa is for Africans. There are some who believe that robots are stealing their luggage. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/51 "2016-11-10T02:15:46Z")
Don’t you see the irony, you fools all laughed at the numerous threads in which **Machinaforce** posited that life was completely meaningless and not worth living, well who is laughing now, well not **Machinaforce** , because like he says life is meaningless and that would be pointless. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/52 "2016-11-10T02:22:48Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > There are some us who believe America is for Americans, Asia is for Asians and Africa is for Africans. So when are you going back to Europe (assuming that is where your ancestors are from)? Maybe you’ll fit in better and be more comfortable over at ummm, I dunno, maybe Stormfront? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/53 "2016-11-10T02:26:18Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Hell no. > > They don’t have a flag. > > [/Eddie Izzard] rofl ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/54 "2016-11-10T02:38:08Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > These are the death throes of a white majority that has slowly been losing its privilege. For whites, working hard and keeping your nose clean used to virtually guarantee you a middle class lifestyle, even if you only had a high school degree. None of the rest of us had that sort of assurance from society. They feel like something has been taken from them and they are looking for someone to blame. People like you need to quit repeating this because it isn’t true and this misrepresentation is what caused this dumpster fire in the first place. Trump is popular with working class whites but they don’t have nearly the numbers to get anyone elected POTUS. Where did the rest of the gap from from? The answer is a significant number of almost all of groups including a much higher than expected number of hispanics, a surprising number of blacks and a lot of people in the higher income tiers. He pulled in numbers that mainstream Republicans like Mitt Romney could only dream of among some minorities. I am sure he had plenty of gay supporters in their too. I didn’t vote for Trump and I can’t fully explain the phenomenon just yet but he hit a lot of nerves among many different groups. The vast majority of people praising his victory on my Facebook feed this morning were women and the happiest person of all was a middle-aged black man at work that served in the military for 20 years. Don’t make the classic liberal mistake of thinking that uneducated cowboys and coal miners can produce those types of numbers because they can’t. They simply don’t have enough people. Look at the electoral map. It is a sea of red except for the coasts and a few very explainable blue pockets like Illinois (which is still mostly red by land area except for Chicago). The red areas are extremely diverse and have little in common except for the fact that people preferred Trump. Once you have taken a drive across the country and actually talked to the many different groups that don’t live in one of the metropolises, you can start to truly understand, learn and maybe even heal a little. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/55 "2016-11-10T02:43:20Z")
Lets look on the bright side. No more Benghazi hearings! Darrell Issa will have to find a new shtick! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/56 "2016-11-10T02:43:48Z")
BTW, anyone seen **elucidator** around? He hasn’t posted since midday Tuesday. I’m beginning to think the news of Trump’s election killed him. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/57 "2016-11-10T02:46:18Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Lets look on the bright side. No more Benghazi hearings! Darrell Issa will have to find a new shtick! Can we hope Issa simply fades away, never to be heard from again, or is that too much to hope for. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/58 "2016-11-10T02:49:07Z")
I for one am going to go polish up my jackboots. I bet they’re coming back in fashion. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/59 "2016-11-10T02:52:13Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I for one am going to go polish up my jackboots. I bet they’re coming back in fashion. Damn. I don’t have any. Guess I’m going shopping tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253/60 "2016-11-10T03:02:29Z")
The good news is this: Race relations are worse than they were when Bush was in charge. The world is still fucked up, and the environment is still going to shit. We were either going to have to start blaming Obama for all this, or accept the realization that we humans are generally just shitty. Now we can just blame all of our collective failings on Trump, and still feel good about ourselves. So we will have that again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-give-in-to-despair-were-fucked/771253.md?page=4)