# Might as well Pit Rick Perry. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 11, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392 "2011-08-11T23:25:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/41 "2011-08-18T00:31:35Z")
Hey now! Hold up there just a minute! He’s the “Job’s Governor”. He’s got my vote to be this country’s next “Job’s President”. :rolleyes: (which means all the private sector jobs will be lost in favor for government jobs; it was his record in Texas). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/42 "2011-08-18T00:36:37Z")
> [@](#): > > …equally divided between supporters and opponents of a Confederacy Plate… In my recollection, nostalgia for the War Between the States is a fairly recent phenomenon. Texas by and large doesn’t identify with “the South” and largely looks down on the South with the same aloof disdain Texas has for just about everybody. Nonetheless, Texas has an outsized effect on American politics, as it is the bastion and fortress for the kind of money that talks, and talks LOUD! They have successfully built a legal system and a governance that virtually assures them perpetual power. It is the Mecca for the _wahhabists_ of capitalism, apostles of Moloch who are, oddly enough, frequently fervent Baptists. Go figure. Change is coming to Texas, against all odds, hallelujah. I heartily commend my lefty brethren and sistren struggling there. I’m just gonna do if from _waaaay_ up here. Oh, the point. Even though Texas is a hell of a launching pad for a right wing politician, my sources tell me that Gov. Goodhair is not nearly so popular a figure as whats-his-face was. Part of that is the change I mentioned upstream, the other part has to do with his being a longhorned douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/43 "2011-08-18T02:27:10Z")
Oh, and all that global warming stuff? Corrupt scientists. Verily, I shit thee not. > [@](#): > > …I do believe that the issue of global warming has been politicized. I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects. And I think we are seeing almost weekly or even daily scientists are coming forward and questioning the original idea that man-made global warming is what is causing the climate to change. Yes our climate’s changed, they’ve been changing ever since the earth was formed. But I do not buy into a group of scientists who have in some cases found to be manipulating this information… [http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/08/17/297969/rick-perry-substantial-number-of-climate-scientists-have-manipulated-data-for-money/](http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/08/17/297969/rick-perry-substantial-number-of-climate-scientists-have-manipulated-data-for-money/) Now that I’ve brought up global warming, its _Waiting for **GIGO** _ ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/44 "2011-08-18T02:41:41Z")
There needs to be a Perry-Palin-Bachmann Thunderdome Death Match. With swords. There Can Be Only One. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/45 "2011-08-18T02:46:11Z")
Mmmmm. Does there _have_ to be one? Couldn’t it, like, end in a tie score? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/46 "2011-08-18T03:26:59Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Oh, and all that global warming stuff? Corrupt scientists. Verily, I shit thee not. > > [http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/08/17/297969/rick-perry-substantial-number-of-climate-scientists-have-manipulated-data-for-money/](http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/08/17/297969/rick-perry-substantial-number-of-climate-scientists-have-manipulated-data-for-money/) > > Now that I’ve brought up global warming, its _Waiting for **GIGO** _ Godot is not coming either.. 🙂 Really, I’m only equated with that subject because for some reason the idiot ball has been embraced by the Republican party for years now, and they are not willing to let it go, [even if conservative scientists tell them to](http://bbickmore.wordpress.com/). If there ever was a subject that scientifically can demonstrate how wrong a political party can be, it is this one. :sigh: it was fun when the idiot ball was handled by Moon hoaxers, nuts that think that the electric sun made every feature on the earth and other planets, 911 truthers or antivaxers, there was no further damage those beliefs could take the nuts. It is not fun when fringe ideas are being propped up by leaders and [media](http://mediamatters.org/research/201108170030)[that do not care at all that they are misleading people in power](http://tamino.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/learning-from-bastardis-mistakes/) into taking dangerous courses of action or to \*\*\*\*continue \*\*\*\*to imply to [a few others](http://www.grist.org/climate-skeptics/2011-07-25-norway-terrorist-is-a-climate-change-denier) that it would make sense to reach for deadly actions against the proponents of solutions. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/47 "2011-08-18T06:15:56Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Rove being roughly the [King Louie](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SBGuTeOnbQk/RvQDFoDl_SI/AAAAAAAAAbU/5O9Kh92XXPs/s400/king-louis.jpg)of the Republican Lands I have to play Bagheera and wonder what the old rascal is playing, but he’s, and not for the first time, [anti Perry](http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/08/16/rick_perry_on_ben_bernanke_calls_quantitative_easing_akin_to_tre.html). Rove is Dr. Frankenstein. Now he’s getting worried that the monster he created is a dangerous to him as it is to his political enemies. When Rove starts pulling back you know that the loonies are in control of the madhouse. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/48 "2011-08-18T17:49:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > his being a longhorned douchebag. Be fair, Perry was an Aggie Yell Leader and never a Longhorn. But I guess Aggie douchebag is almost repeating yourself. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/49 "2011-08-18T18:12:03Z")
Aggies are known for being a mite slow. Douchebags are mostly TCU, IIRC. And we are getting into Texarcana, kind of things unknown to the Great Washed. Just as well. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/50 "2011-08-18T18:20:48Z")
Did somebody say [Aggie douchebag](http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/08/caption_this_rick_perry_at_tex.php)? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/51 "2011-08-18T18:32:41Z")
It seems no one yet has mentioned how he let an innocent man be executed. The innocence part is my own estimation, but the evidence leans heavily in that direction. At the very, very least the condemned man deserved another day in court, and any Governor with a shred of decency would have afforded him that opportunity. Afterwords, an inquiry was launched, which Perry effectively scuttled as the probable results became clear. If I were as religious a man as Perry pretends to be, I would recommend he spend the rest of his days in penance and good works. One of many sources for the sordid details: > **[Cameron Todd Willingham](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham)** > > Cameron Todd Willingham (January 9, 1968 – February 17, 2004) was an American man who was convicted and executed for the murder of his three young children by arson at the family home in Corsicana, Texas, on December 23, 1991. Since Willingham's 2004 execution, significant controversy has arisen over the legitimacy of the guilty verdict and the interpretation of the evidence that was used to convict him of arson and murder. > Willingham's case and the investigative techniques were criticized by ... ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/52 "2011-08-18T18:36:01Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Did somebody say [Aggie douchebag](http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/08/caption_this_rick_perry_at_tex.php)? “Mr. Perry, I fear you have a rather unfortunate misunderstanding of the term ‘animal husbandry’…” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/53 "2011-08-18T18:51:10Z")
Let’s be totally frank and candid. Rick Perry must not, under any circumstances, be permitted to infect the Oval Office, and fester therein. Short of treason and armed insurrection, “by any means necessary”. If the Prince of Darkness (the original, not Karl Rove…) were to offer me that the only way to stop him would be for me to promise to vote for Ms Bachmann, I would so promise. Happily, no such dire efforts are likely to be necessary, right now, I’m betting he spatters himself on the windshield of public opinion in one month or less. My faith in America and its people is often shaken, never broken. From my lips to the Ears. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/54 "2011-08-18T22:19:36Z")
Good Lord! I just saw a news clip on TV where a kid from Iowa asked RP about evolution. He gave the standard BS response you’d expect from any self righteous politician. But then at the end he told the kid: “In Texas, we teach our children both evolution and creationism.” No Rick, we do not! The TBE just recently voted unanimously that creationism would not be in our text books! For fucks sake! At least know what’s going on in your own state! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/55 "2011-08-18T22:52:38Z")
Anyone know what Perry’s religious affiliation is? I see references on the interwebs that he is a Methodist. My understanding is that the Methodist Church has stances that are rather more progressive than those he appears to favor, which seem to have more of a Pentecostal/Baptist sort of tinge. Of course, I haven’t been inside a Methodist Church for a very long time, save for relatives being married or buried, so I am more than a little lapsed. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/56 "2011-08-18T23:19:12Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Let’s be totally frank and candid. Rick Perry must not, under any circumstances, be permitted to infect the Oval Office, and fester therein. Short of treason and armed insurrection, “by any means necessary”. If the Prince of Darkness (the original, not Karl Rove…) were to offer me that the only way to stop him would be for me to promise to vote for Ms Bachmann, I would so promise. Just out of curiosity, do you think he’d be worse than Bachmann? I don’t know much about him yet (creeps me out with the religiousity), but the pundits seem to be saying: Underestimate him at your peril. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/57 "2011-08-18T23:22:24Z")
What little I’ve read about the man completely creeps me out. I linked to an article in a different thread that said that if Bush and he were brothers, Bush would be known as ‘the smart one’…which should give everyone pause. :eek: -XT ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/58 "2011-08-19T00:00:24Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Just out of curiosity, do you think he’d be worse than Bachmann? > > I don’t know much about him yet (creeps me out with the religiousity), but the pundits seem to be saying: Underestimate him at your peril. A fair question. Syphilis or leprosy, the choice is yours… Perry, because he is steeped in Texas culture, or that part of Texas culture that doesn’t include me or Willie Nelson. A lot of Texans pride themselves on being hard-ass and mean-spirited to a degree mostly absent amongst Minnesotans. I have heard people who’s opinion I respect advise me that Ms Bachmann’s record as a foster parent is pretty good, especially in comparison to so many, many others. Yes, you get a big dose of Jesus with your macaroni and cheese, but you \*get \*the macaroni and cheese. Kind of thing that counts a lot for me. Bless her heart, she means well. And I don’t underestimate him, or, more to the point, I don’t underestimate the people who use him. He has been groomed and molded for years by the \*wahhabist \*Republicans who dominate Texas politics, he is their creature. Fear and loathing in Waco. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/59 "2011-08-19T00:01:50Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > What little I’ve read about the man completely creeps me out. I linked to an article in a different thread that said that if Bush and he were brothers, Bush would be known as ‘the smart one’…which should give everyone pause. :eek: > > -XT Wikipedia said his college GPA was 2.2. Not exactly Mensa territory. And like Bush, he was a “yell leader” (ie, male cheerleader). In the Air Force he piloted jets (but he was in the real AF, not the reserves). I’ll probably vote for Obama again, although less enthusiastically this time, but it would be nice to see some GOP candidate who was at least marginally interesting. The crew so far is just underwhelming. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392/60 "2011-08-19T00:15:08Z")
Not that I’m seeing this bozo getting the nomination, but I’d probably vote for Nader (or, perhaps nadir ;)) or Kucinich before I’d vote for this whack-a-do. I definitely plan to vote for Obama, regardless…but then I’m less disappointed in him than seemingly most 'dopers, who I think had unrealistic expectations about what he would or even could do. Yeah…it would be nice if the GOP ran someone interesting, or at least someone sane, but I’m not holding my breath at this point. It’s hard to believe that this is the line up they are choosing (when Obama and the Dems are obviously on the defensive), but maybe they really have been captured by the loonies on the right and this actually IS what they want. That’s even scarier than the comparison between Bush and Perry where Bush comes out looking good. :eek:…:eek::eek::eek: -XT [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-as-well-pit-rick-perry/592392.md?page=4)