# Might I suggest a UK DopeFest?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 15, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347 "2007-02-15T14:59:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/41 "2007-02-20T19:35:53Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
My point being that you live in France…sheesh it aint that hard to unnerstand :dubious:  
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Fair enough. So no anti-French sentiment there then. 😉

And whilst I might live in France, I visit the UK on a regular basis. 😛

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/42 "2007-02-20T19:43:13Z")

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**Angua** I don’t mean to irritate you at all. I just do not like the French, I find them arrogant in the extreme.

I’ve had 2 holidays in La Belle France, I won’t be having a 3rd as the previous hols were an unmitigated disaster due in no small part to the aforementioned arrogance…especially that displayed by hotel staff who seemed to think that being unable to speak French was a cardinal sin.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/43 "2007-02-20T19:50:09Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]

I’ve had 2 holidays in La Belle France, I won’t be having a 3rd as the previous hols were an unmitigated disaster due in no small part to the aforementioned arrogance…especially that displayed by hotel staff who seemed to think that being unable to speak French was a cardinal sin.  
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You just have to speak louder and slower - “I..WOULD…LIKE…EGG…AND…CHIPS…PLEASE!” - and then you’re sorted.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/44 "2007-02-20T19:51:46Z")

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Plus they eat horse meat ☹

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/45 "2007-02-20T19:54:58Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
**Angua** I don’t mean to irritate you at all. I just do not like the French, I find them arrogant in the extreme.

I’ve had 2 holidays in La Belle France, I won’t be having a 3rd as the previous hols were an unmitigated disaster due in no small part to the aforementioned arrogance…especially that displayed by hotel staff who seemed to think that being unable to speak French was a cardinal sin.  
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Fair enough. I certainly know the stereotype, but I’m eternally fortunate that in my almost 4 months that I’ve been here, I have never really encountered this. Maybe I’ve just been lucky.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/46 "2007-02-20T19:54:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Struan]  
You just have to speak louder and slower - “I..WOULD…LIKE…EGG…AND…CHIPS…PLEASE!” - and then you’re sorted.  
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“Excusez moi, les ouef avec pomme frit monsieur”

“…and brown sauce while you’re at it” 😃

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/47 "2007-02-20T20:05:43Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
“Excusez moi, les ouef avec pomme frit monsieur”

“…and brown sauce while you’re at it” 😃  
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Hehe, you’re a braver man than I mixing egg and brown sauce…

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/48 "2007-02-21T08:48:17Z")

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[QUOTE=garius]  
Manchester is actually one of the few Cities in England that i genuinely loathe.  
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High five!

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/49 "2007-02-21T10:13:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Struan]  
Hehe, you’re a braver man than I mixing egg and brown sauce…  
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“Merde!” here was me thinking pom frits were fried spuds 😃

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/50 "2007-02-21T10:55:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> ZOW!  
> I almost feel badly for suggesting this and then just watching it snowball on the efforts of others.  
> (After all, I AM an American. And, as I’m sure you all know, it’s all about ME! )

Its all your fault. You were the one who let the Mancs into the thread 😛

Probably the best approach date-wise is to let us know which weekend(s) is/are best for you (it is your party after all) and then we can do a quick headcount of availability.

Also, do you have any preferences when it comes to the drinking establishment in question? Happy with one pub? Want something suitably “Quaint”? etc. etc.

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> I’ve had 2 holidays in La Belle France, I won’t be having a 3rd as the previous hols were an unmitigated disaster due in no small part to the aforementioned arrogance… **especially that displayed by hotel staff who seemed to think that being unable to speak French was a cardinal sin.**

Because god forbid us English people should actually _try_ and learn a bit of the native language when we travel… 😃

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/51 "2007-02-21T11:08:43Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
**Angua** I don’t mean to irritate you at all. I just do not like the French, I find them arrogant in the extreme.

I’ve had 2 holidays in La Belle France, I won’t be having a 3rd as the previous hols were an unmitigated disaster due in no small part to the aforementioned arrogance…especially that displayed by hotel staff who seemed to think that being unable to speak French was a cardinal sin.  
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\<mutters something about an irony meter\>

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/52 "2007-02-21T11:46:53Z")

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[QUOTE=garius]

Because god forbid us English people should actually _try_ and learn a bit of the native language when we travel… 😃  
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What, you mean like the way you learnt German? 😉

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/53 "2007-02-21T12:47:06Z")

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> What, you mean like the way you learnt German?

Too fucking right. If more people used crappy films as a method of learning a foreign language then the world would be a better place. Who knows, maybe in 2000 years time world peace will have been brought about due to the global adoption of Jackie-Chan English or summat.

([full story here](http://www.dragondark.co.uk/blogs/johnbull/index.php/2007/02/19/parley-voo-deutchlander/) for anyone wondering what **Angua** is referring too)

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/54 "2007-02-21T12:47:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]  
\<mutters something about an irony meter\>  
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Careful, you know those things aren’t guaranteed for use on the Internet.

And the only, I mean the _only_, thing worse than those arrogant French bastards expecting us to speak French in France, is the way they come over here and they can’t even speak the language! What’s up with that? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/55 "2007-02-21T13:13:23Z")

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You’re missing the whole point. English is _the_International language.

Why then should we learn other strange tongues?, surely it is up to furriners to learn ours

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/56 "2007-02-21T13:15:20Z")

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I can’t tell if you’re doing it on purpose, **chowder**.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/57 "2007-02-21T13:18:24Z")

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I’m going to back away slowly from this thread right now, assuming this is just banter and not real “why can’t all them foreigners just speak English” Daily Mail-ese…

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/58 "2007-02-21T14:00:08Z")

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> I’m going to back away slowly from this thread right now, assuming this is just banter and not real “why can’t all them foreigners just speak English” Daily Mail-ese…

Need a cab luv?

Where to? Alright sweet’art, no problem.

Now i’m not a racist but those _fuckin’_ foreigners…

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/59 "2007-02-21T16:27:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]  
I can’t tell if you’re doing it on purpose, **chowder**.  
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😃

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/might-i-suggest-a-uk-dopefest/392347/60 "2007-02-26T15:36:40Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
**Angua** I don’t mean to irritate you at all. I just do not like the French, I find them arrogant in the extreme.

I’ve had 2 holidays in La Belle France, I won’t be having a 3rd as the previous hols were an unmitigated disaster due in no small part to the aforementioned arrogance…especially that displayed by hotel staff who seemed to think that being unable to speak French was a cardinal sin.  
[/QUOTE]

My French is pretty appalling but I’ve found that just by attempting to communicate in it to the natives 🙂 has always resulted in exceptional service every time.  
The British attitude to learning other languages is notorious throughout the world so they appreciate the thought ,even if if they find my linguist skills or rather the lack of them ,comical.

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