# "Mike" Bloomberg Presidential campaign, 2020

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 27, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048 "2019-11-27T03:42:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/1 "2019-11-27T03:42:00Z")

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I just saw a “Mike” Bloomberg ad where he claimed he has stood up to “this administration”. When? He left office as mayor before Individual 1 took office.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/2 "2019-11-27T09:22:01Z")

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I think there’s very little more telling of the state of modern American politics than a billionaire starting his campaign by spending more on ads than anyone ever had… from his own pockets, without significantly impacting his own wealth, [explicitly to fight against people on the left who want him to pay more taxes](https://boingboing.net/2019/11/26/rational-investment.html).

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> Bloomberg is running in part because he opposes the progressive candidates’ “extreme wealth taxes” which would see him paying $3.7b under a Sanders presidency, $3b under a Warren presidency or $512m under a Steyer presidency – per year.
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> That $32m that Bloomberg has dumped into his ad-buy? It’s 1.1% of the tax bill he’d owe under Warren in the first year.
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> Lavish political spending is a rational calculus when it comes to the ultra-rich: the Kochs – who have been pouring money into oligarch-friendly organizations and campaigns for a generation – have seen a massive return on their investments. Amazon was making a similar calculus when it dumped unprecedented sums into the local Seattle elections – though Amazon’s investment failed in large part because the impropriety was so blatant that it motivated voters to cast ballots against it.

To which there really is only one response that I can dignify this with. Starts with a “G”, looks sharp on billionaires.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/3 "2019-11-27T12:04:31Z")

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Greatcoats?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/4 "2019-11-27T12:37:52Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Greatcoats?

I was going with Gucci but sure, that works too.

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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/5 "2019-11-27T14:54:00Z")

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If he wanted a centrist candidate, his timing could not possibly have been worse. Buttigieg was just catching fire and was tied with Sanders and Warren to win at 23% on PredictiT. Now Buttigieg is down to 18% last I looked. I like Bloomberg but he’s an idiot to split off the centrist vote from Buttigieg at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/6 "2019-11-27T16:30:39Z")

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> [@KidCharlemagne](#):
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> If he wanted a centrist candidate, his timing could not possibly have been worse. Buttigieg was just catching fire and was tied with Sanders and Warren to win at 23% on PredictiT. Now Buttigieg is down to 18% last I looked. I like Bloomberg but he’s an idiot to split off the centrist vote from Buttigieg at the moment.

Its hard to take Butigieg seriously. He has never gotten more than 10,991 votes in an election.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/7 "2019-11-27T19:11:21Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Its hard to take Butigieg seriously. He has never gotten more than 10,991 votes in an election.

OK, Republican talking point.

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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/8 "2019-11-27T19:12:48Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Its hard to take Butigieg seriously. He has never gotten more than 10,991 votes in an election.

Trump had 0 votes before he got elected. As did Bloomberg for Mayor. I trust prediction markets over polls and those had him dead even at the top

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/9 "2019-11-27T21:08:41Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> To which there really is only one response that I can dignify this with. Starts with a “G”, looks sharp on billionaires.

I was thinking “Guillotine”.:eek:

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/10 "2019-12-13T22:22:01Z")

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Do you want to see a room full of staffers dancing to a song called “Moves Like Bloomberg”?

Probably not, but if you do: [https://twitter.com/nickciarelli/status/1205354210465742848](https://twitter.com/nickciarelli/status/1205354210465742848)

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/11 "2019-12-15T15:08:32Z")

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He’s running plenty of ads on TV here in NC. I see them as I fast forward past them on recorded shows. 🙂

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/12 "2019-12-15T15:16:54Z")

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I hope he becomes the Democratic candidate because of none of the rest of them have a chance. Their reaction to him joining the race is the proof of that.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/13 "2019-12-15T16:36:51Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Its hard to take Butigieg seriously. He has never gotten more than 10,991 votes in an election.

It’s hard to take the US Senate seriously. No bill has ever gotten more than 100 votes.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/14 "2019-12-15T16:37:54Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> Do you want to see a room full of staffers dancing to a song called “Moves Like Bloomberg”?
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> Probably not, but if you do: [https://twitter.com/nickciarelli/status/1205354210465742848](https://twitter.com/nickciarelli/status/1205354210465742848)

In case you didn’t know, this was satire.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/15 "2019-12-15T18:37:45Z")

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Who is his voting base?

My impression is black people don’t really like him due to things like stop and frisk.

Liberals don’t really like him due to the fact that he is just running to oppose Sanders & Warren’s progressive taxes on wealth and income.

Liberals and blacks make up nearly 3/4 of all democratic voters when combined. How is he going to win a primary?

I do worry that lots of billionaires will fund 3rd party runs and fund the GOP to stop the democrats if Warren or Sanders is the nominee.

Then again, NYC is full of black people and liberals and he won the mayoral race there.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/16 "2019-12-15T19:23:39Z")

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To add to that: Libertarians and many Republicans dislike him because he’s a nanny-statist who never saw a problem that couldn’t be solved by making something illegal.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/17 "2019-12-15T19:26:29Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I hope he becomes the Democratic candidate because of none of the rest of them have a chance. Their reaction to him joining the race is the proof of that.

He;s an opportunist who’s only a Democrat when it benefits him. Just like Bernie.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/18 "2019-12-15T19:31:40Z")

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And even more, the political junkies that have been following this from the beginning don’t like people like Steyer or Bloomberg who jump in late and eschew the usual retail politics of primary campaigns.

It may seem hokey to have to meet with people at a county fair in Iowa or a diner in NH, but I want the President to remember those faces when s/he has to get on tv to respond to a terror attack that killed thousands, a massive hurricane causing destruction of thousands of homes, or that s/he wants to send troops off to war.

Bloomberg and Steyer look like two jewellery companies jumping in with advertising during the Christmas through Valentines time frame.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/19 "2019-12-15T21:55:36Z")

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He’s on TV more than Law and Order reruns.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/20 "2019-12-15T21:57:03Z")

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Isn’t Bloomberg the Nannystate doofus that wanted to ban Big Gulp sodas? His stance on guns is disqualifying for me anyway, but  
the soda thing was annoying.

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