# "Mike" Bloomberg Presidential campaign, 2020 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 27, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048 "2019-11-27T03:42:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/181 "2020-02-13T02:57:04Z")
Stop and Frisk had racist impacts, as have had and do have many policies that exist currently. Bloomberg owns up to that and it is very important that he get beat up on it now and not wait until it is weaponized in a general. Can he make the case to Black voters that he made a mistake, owns it, is sorry for it, and is committed to issues that matter to Black voters, including gun violence reduction and to visions of reducing racial wealth inequity as expressed in his philanthropic actions since and in[his current proposed plan](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-bloomberg/democrat-bloomberg-vows-to-narrow-wealth-gap-for-black-americans-idUSKBN1ZI0N1)? If I had to bet I’d bet that it won’t hurt him much. He had decent approval ratings among Black New Yorkers even at the height of Stop and Frisk (albeit lower than among white voters), he’s apologized since, and he’s done things since that have helped Black communities in many ways … which is why just today he’s picked up three more endorsements - from members of [the Black caucus](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482720-bloomberg-nabs-two-endorsements-from-congressional-black-caucus-amid-stop). His track record on trying to reduce gun violence, taking it as a serious problem, plays well to Black registered voters who see gun violence as [a more serious problem than even racial prejudice in the justice system and police misconduct.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/28/black-voters-gun-violence-police-misconduct-poll)This from 2016, height of BLM awareness: > [@](#): > > Black voters think most Americans simply do not care about urban gun violence, according to a new phone survey by a prominent Democratic polling firm. But for them, it’s a crucial issue – and a more serious one than police misconduct. > > In a February poll, 80% of the registered black voters surveyed described gun violence in communities of color as an “extremely serious” problem, compared with only 50% who called police misconduct an “extremely serious” problem, and 69% who called the incarceration rate an “extremely serious” problem. Taking on gun violence in as a long term project of great importance, even including having once done so in a way that had racist impacts and failed to do much good, will, I think, sell well among large swaths of Black voters. But we’ll see and better to see now than in the general! ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/182 "2020-02-13T15:06:08Z")
his tweet to Trump : we know many of the same people in NY. Behind your back they laugh at you & call you a carnival barking clown. They know you inherited a fortune & squandered it with stupid deals and incompetence. I have the record & the resources to defeat you. And I will. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/183 "2020-02-13T15:22:38Z")
also former NC Dem governor Bev Perdue will be there with him today in Raleigh. Assume she is endorsing him. She only served one term and did not run for a 2nd term because it was doubtful she would win her 2nd race. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/184 "2020-02-13T15:27:55Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > his tweet to Trump : > > we know many of the same people in NY. Behind your back they laugh at you & call you a carnival barking clown. > They know you inherited a fortune & squandered it with stupid deals and incompetence. > > I have the record & the resources to defeat you. And I will. Oh snap! It’s awesome that he’s trolling Trump online and it’s awesome that he’s giving money to Democrats. What I still don’t quite get is why he has to run for President in order to do these things. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/185 "2020-02-13T15:41:58Z")
The argument goes because everyone else running would _be the trolled_. He’s given money to Democrats (and an occasional Republican) and committed to using his money to defeat Trump in any case (although it would be awkward for Sanders to be the beneficiary of his largesse given how he feels about PACs of billionaires). Trolling Trump works much better as the candidate. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/186 "2020-02-13T16:27:08Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > I said he deserved credit for trying to save lives, not for the willful terrorizing of anyone. If the Tsar only knew what his Cossacks were doing in his name… ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/187 "2020-02-13T18:01:20Z")
[Bloomberg: 2008 Financial Crisis Caused by Banks Not Being Allowed to be Racist.](https://apnews.com/8cbb1fafbb4faf01e8d9571363979501?fbclid=IwAR2a1xSoTX67herFj84vMej1TnL81AINagw2JAyytMWu-HQfWJNlGLYN0o4) ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/188 "2020-02-13T19:09:42Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > If I had to bet I’d bet that it won’t hurt him much. He had decent approval ratings among Black New Yorkers even at the height of Stop and Frisk (albeit lower than among white voters), he’s apologized since, and he’s done things since that have helped Black communities in many ways … which is why just today he’s picked up three more endorsements - from members of [the Black caucus](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482720-bloomberg-nabs-two-endorsements-from-congressional-black-caucus-amid-stop). I wouldn’t bet either way, but fair enough. It would be interesting to see some polling on how much it would affect the black vote in New York City alone versus that in, say, South Carolina. It goes without saying that everyone, no matter where they live, have a right to be outraged by Bloomberg’s policy, but I would imagine that outrage would be a bit more visceral in the place where the stop and frisk policy was carried out. All of this is to say, that should Bloomberg somehow get the nomination in the end, in order to win, he would have to flip Florida and take back one of Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania. Or not flip Florida, and win the rest. Without looking up state demographics, the non-white population of those states is relatively small (except Florida), and given that blacks in those states (as well as for the rest of the nation, for that matter) overwhelmingly vote Democratic, I’d guess it would take a massive defection based on stop and frisk to do real damage to Bloomberg’s chances in the general. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/189 "2020-02-13T19:09:43Z")
Saw him today , he looks much younger in person. Talked about local stuff then standard stump type speech. May vote for him but I don’t need to decide before March 3rd. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/190 "2020-02-13T20:04:35Z")
Ultimately, Bloomberg is banking on a brokered convention. He has spread his money out enough that he has a ton of super-delegate votes in his pocket. If no one gets a majority of the bound delegates during the primary, it’s going to be a brokered convention. Anything can happen. Clinton only won 1 out of his first 10 primaries so Biden still has a shot at it but if it comes down to a brokered convention, Bloomberg has 60 billion dollars and that can be very convincing to a political party. Total dollars spent during the 2016 election by the winning candidate 646 million. That’s about 1% of what Michael Bloomberg has. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/191 "2020-02-13T20:13:42Z")
Also he was on time today which is not common for presidential candidates . I saw the Secret Service there but maybe it was his own security guys. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/192 "2020-02-13T20:26:17Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > In one ad he brags how he shut down some coal burning power plants. Ok, that sounds nice, but what did he replace them with? Electricity has to come from somewhere. He replaced them with a power plant that burns the aborted fetal remains from all over the Northeast US. Then he uses the power to enable black Muslims to give drugs to kids in daycare centers, so that they’ll all turn in to ANTIFA zombies who can’t be killed. Then the war on conservatives, white people and Jesus REALLY starts! ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/193 "2020-02-13T21:02:00Z")
[All racism aside, any woman (or ally) who’d vote for this d-bag seriously needs to have their V-card revoked.](https://gawker.com/5979679/id-do-her-a-brief-history-of-michael-bloombergs-public-sexism) He’s one sick puppy. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/194 "2020-02-13T21:09:18Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#): > > [All racism aside, any woman (or ally) who’d vote for this d-bag seriously needs to have their V-card revoked.](https://gawker.com/5979679/id-do-her-a-brief-history-of-michael-bloombergs-public-sexism) He’s one sick puppy. It’s been pointed out to me elsewhere that people see “V-card” and think “virginity” (which is a meaningless social construct with no actual validity) rather than “vagina,” which demonstrably do exist and are real things in the world. Plz to read it in intended manner, thx. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/195 "2020-02-13T21:34:23Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > [Bloomberg: 2008 Financial Crisis Caused by Banks Not Being Allowed to be Racist.](https://apnews.com/8cbb1fafbb4faf01e8d9571363979501?fbclid=IwAR2a1xSoTX67herFj84vMej1TnL81AINagw2JAyytMWu-HQfWJNlGLYN0o4) I’m pretty sure that you re-wrote that headline and I’m also pretty sure that Mr. Bloomberg didn’t say or even imply what you said he said and/or implied. Who’s side are you on? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/196 "2020-02-13T21:41:43Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’m pretty sure that you re-wrote that headline and I’m also pretty sure that Mr. Bloomberg didn’t say or even imply what you said he said and/or implied. > > Who’s side are you on? The lede: > [@](#): > > At the height of the 2008 economic collapse, then-New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the elimination of a discriminatory housing practice known as “redlining” was responsible for instigating the meltdown. I’m not sure what daylight you see between AP’s description of what Bloomberg said, and **Thing Fish** ’s description. Like I said, I’m ready to dance with the devil if that’s what it takes to act meaningfully against global warming while there’s still time. But I’m not gonna bullshit anyone into thinking he’s not the devil. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/197 "2020-02-13T21:45:19Z")
I agree that the elimination of redlining was a huge contributing factor to the economic collapse of 2008, if not the single most important factor. I also agree that redlining was racist. I don’t give a fuck if he’s the devil if he’s MY devil. Are you unaware that THEY currently have a devil of their own in the White House? Who’s side are you on? ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/198 "2020-02-13T21:54:21Z")
So, the government forced lenders to stop discriminating against black communities…and then lenders just had no choice but to victimize black communities with predatory loans? You’re going to have to walk me through the logic on that one. No law was ever passed forcing banks to write mortgages for people who couldn’t pay them. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/199 "2020-02-13T21:56:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’m pretty sure that you re-wrote that headline and I’m also pretty sure that Mr. Bloomberg didn’t say or even imply what you said he said and/or implied. > > Who’s side are you on? Waiting for an apology for the implied accusation of dishonesty here. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-bloomberg-presidential-campaign-2020/844048/200 "2020-02-13T21:58:50Z")
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