Mike Gordon (Bassist of Phish) is a Pervert

All I can tell you is there were 3 security men. One, named Simon, was Gordon’s “guard” and two others (that might have been on the Dead payroll).

If you can piss even 1/50th the distance Gordon & the girl were from any other people, I suggest you call Guiness.

Exactly. Give the cynic a cigar. It’s a little troubling to read the “he was stoned,” “he’s avant-garde” & “blame the whacko parents” defenses being put up.

He abducted a 9 year old girl - cut and dry, plain and simple. That in and of itself is a perverted action in my opinion. If anyone can really condone Gordon’s actions, I have a book about molestation written by Pete Townsend I’d like to sell you.

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Maybe muckraking posters should also follow Dad’s advice. Otherwise, he might beat the shit out of you.

Excuse the profanity. Now why did I believe I was in the Pit?

JohnBckWLD, I’m amazed you have no problem calling this guy a Pervert, while, at the same time, admitting: “No one implied he was molesting her and test results confirm he didn’t. The pictures contained in the camera were suggestive, but by no means pornographic or illegal.” You also take another leap of logic and try to ascribe the motive that he wanted to rape her, kill her, and dump her body in the lake. For Og’s sake, the parents of the kid are saying it was an unfortunate misunderstanding.

It isn’t just the muckraking journalists who should put this to rest.

Do you have a cite for any of this? I mean besides the linked news article that reads like it was written by a 12 year-old (“The DA’s office says the evidence is being evaluated. Regardless of whether Gordon has to face a judge next month, law-enforcement sources say unofficial justice was already delivered. The Hell’s Angels, who detained Gordon for police, were not, the sources say, gentle with sensitive areas of the rock star’s body.”) Sure, that’s professional writing. And whom, exactly, are these “law enforcement sources” that are so clever with a phrase.

This whole story seems to be strange at best, and unbelievable at worst.

Yes, that’s what I meant. My defense of Mike (as regards pedophilia, anyway–I won’t disagree that this was really stupid) is not based in blind devotion for a band I’ve been a fan of for nearly a decade. It’s based in the fact that, from what I’ve observed in Mike’s behavior and his art in that time, it’s easier to believe that he was being weird and artistic and displaying bad judgement than to believe he is a pedophile.

That said, I will admit that my fandom slants me, just as I recognize that JohnBckWLD’s account is both second-hand and one-sided.

I wouldn’t count on it.

Dr. J

Well, sure, abduct, as in lead away, literally. If the mother knew she was with him, though, I don’t exactly think it’s cut, dry, plain, or simple. It’s good to be protective of children, John, but for someone who doesn’t know what happened, you sound awfully sure of yourself.

Are you the bassist from Phish? :dubious:

“Research” and “Art pictures”.

Yeah, thats right. Don’t you know celebrities rarely do time? Justice is withdrawn from a bank account.


How is Rap like Porno? Both are better with the sound turned off.

Hm. Mike may want to reevaluate his bodyguard hiring procedures. Might want to emphasize the part of the job description involving protection.

The life jacket has not been in any news article I’ve seen. The only mention of a life jacket has been by JohnBckWLD, who is repeating what his source has said. I have no reason to doubt JohnBckWLD’s sincerity, but until further notice I have to file it with all the other unverified 'net rumors.

Doctor J, the many bad puns that the newspapers are using must be truly painful for you.

On second reading of the OP, John, I think that you’re speaking like a total ass, unless you know exactly what’s on the film. If the girl is making a kissy face at the camera, I’m sure the press would have no trouble describing it as “suggestive”, but it would be a stretch to call it a “sick, demented pedophile fantasy”, as you put it.

I’m really a little nervous about resurrecting this thread but the charges were dropped on Friday. Phish announced tour dates for fall on Thursday, btw.

I wonder if people will start throwing things at him when he gets on stage, like barbie dolls in little life jackets?

That would be both inappropriate and in very poor taste. Kim Possible dolls with swimmies on her phorearms would be much more suit-able.

Well… giving Hell’s Angels backstage run of the place was the first mistake…

Let’s see… there’s been no evidence (and no suggestion by anybody actually involved in the case) that the girl was molested or harmed.
The pictures he took were apparently clean and didn’t trouble the court.
The parents started apologizing a day or two later and saying they didn’t want a big deal made of this.
The charges have been dropped.

Yeah, it makes LOTS of sense to call Gordon a pervert based on that.