# Mike Lindell's company told to pay $5 million in "Prove Mike Wrong" challenge **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 20, 2023, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994 "2023-04-20T23:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/61 "2023-10-10T03:51:10Z")
> [@slicedalone](#): > > appealing to MAGA nuts to finance his pro-MAGA case? The examples of Rudy and the little fish in the Georgia case suggests that the MAGA people are only willing to send their money to the Big Fish. He’s the leader of their cult, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/62 "2023-10-10T21:02:42Z")
I really hate that I love my My Pillow and want to get another one. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/63 "2023-10-10T21:09:00Z")
Just be comforted (heh) by the possibility that they might be **EXTREMELY CHEAP** very soon. ---
**Author:** ![Guapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@Guapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guapo)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/64 "2023-10-13T18:54:03Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > and make them vulnerable to hawks You misspelled “hack” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/65 "2023-10-13T19:18:43Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Just be comforted (heh) by the possibility that they might be **EXTREMELY CHEAP** very soon. And further, by the likelihood that the money you pay to buy one won’t be going to Lindel but instead will be going to one of the various people who are suing him. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/66 "2023-10-13T20:10:17Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > I really hate that I love my My Pillow and want to get another one. One reason I wouldn’t get one is that I wouldn’t be able to say that without wondering if the second “my” is redundant. I’m convinced that this is one of the reasons MySpace fell behind, because it doesn’t really sound right to say “Hey, look at my MySpace”, and saying “Hey, look at my Space” is ambiguous. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/67 "2023-10-13T22:12:27Z")
It is awkward, I’ll give you that. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/68 "2023-10-14T02:34:05Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > One reason I wouldn’t get one is that I wouldn’t be able to say that without wondering if the second “my” is redundant. I’m convinced that this is one of the reasons MySpace fell behind, because it doesn’t really sound right to say “Hey, look at my MySpace”, and saying “Hey, look at my Space” is ambiguous. I bet you hate it when people enter their PIN Number into the ATM Machine. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/69 "2023-10-14T15:45:10Z")
If my BFF Forever did that I’d be so mad. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/70 "2023-10-14T16:07:05Z")
I think I first saw [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRCtaDfwm7c&t=177s) on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver; Mike Lindell lost his shit when a lawyer referred to his pillows as “lumpy” while questioning him during a deposition. (As I remember, John Oliver followed up the clip with screenshots of Amazon reviews of his pillows that described them as lumpy.) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/71 "2023-10-14T16:16:32Z")
He’s an odd duck, that’s for sure. I saw an interview clip where he is sort of praising Jimmy Kimmel, who makes fun of him all the time. He has no sense at all. If you’re not a comedian, you don’t go on the Jimmy Kimmel show inside of a toy machine and expect to be taken seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/72 "2023-10-14T16:17:48Z")
Given how much of a commodity pillows are, I’m slightly amazed at how much success he’s had selling the things. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/73 "2023-10-14T16:41:34Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Given how much of a commodity pillows are, I’m slightly amazed at how much success he’s had selling the things… It’s a pretty tried and true method of making money: - find a common household item that everyone has, and needs periodic replacing - preferably a product that does not have a current market leader or branding associated with it - make an adequate product, cheaply - (most important bit) hype the crap out of it, using telemarketing techniques and hucksterism like the guy at the fair selling pots and pans - More hype - preferably featuring a “personality” in the ads. “I’m not just the president, I use my own products” - Profit! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/74 "2023-10-14T16:43:22Z")
Good point. I wonder what I can sell. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/75 "2023-10-14T16:45:04Z")
You need to have the guts to try 3, 4, 5 things and fail a few times before finding success. And you (or your spokesperson) needs to have an abundance of personal charisma to pull it off. It’s essentially the “Sham-wow” method. Throwing in a religious conversion, or a tragic back-story as spice can help too. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/76 "2023-10-14T17:24:38Z")
Of course, “ATM” is already redundant. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/77 "2023-10-14T17:30:05Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You need to have the guts to try 3, 4, 5 things and fail a few times before finding success. And you (or your spokesperson) needs to have an abundance of personal charisma to pull it off. It’s essentially the “Sham-wow” method. If charisma is needed, I have no chance. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/78 "2023-10-14T17:34:16Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Of course, “ATM” is already redundant. Don’t want to hijack, but how so? ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/79 "2023-10-14T17:37:39Z")
I think because an automated teller is already a machine. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994/80 "2023-10-14T17:39:41Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I think I first saw [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRCtaDfwm7c&t=177s) on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver; Mike Lindell lost his shit when a lawyer referred to his pillows as “lumpy” while questioning him during a deposition. (As I remember, John Oliver followed up the clip with screenshots of Amazon reviews of his pillows that described them as lumpy.). They are definitely lumpy but you quickly get used to it and the more you use it, the less lumpy it gets. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-lindells-company-told-to-pay-5-million-in-prove-mike-wrong-challenge/982994.md?page=5)