# Mike Pence in 2024-- please tell me it's not happening **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 5, 2020, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826 "2020-11-05T10:33:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/302 "2023-06-08T00:25:29Z")
Pence wants to take us back to the 50’s. The 1850’s. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/303 "2023-06-08T13:20:23Z")
Some interesting historical context here: > **[Why Mike Pence is already struggling in the presidential race | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/08/politics/2024-presidential-race-pence-struggle/index.html)** > > The vice presidency can be a stepping stone to the presidency. Just ask Joe Biden, who found that serving as Barack Obama’s No. 2 was the ticket to winning his party’s nomination for president after two unsuccessful attempts. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/304 "2023-06-08T13:34:23Z")
He can’t possibly be so deluded as to believe he has even a snowball’s chance. It’ll be interesting to watch his campaign to see what he thinks he’s actually trying to accomplish. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/305 "2023-06-08T13:43:10Z")
Maybe he’s seeking revenge for having to spend four years licking Trump’s spittle. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/306 "2023-06-08T13:48:18Z")
> **[Mike Pence tears into Donald Trump at 2024 campaign launch](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65839793)** > > Donald Trump's two-time running mate offers his most forceful repudiation of his ex-boss to date. Based on this, it could be that he’s having an attack of principle, that everything else aside he knows another Trump presidency would be a disaster, so he’s burning what remains of his capital in an effort to damage the Trump name for at least a fraction of otherwise likely voters. He knows he himself has no shot, but if he can suppress at least a small percentage of GOP turnout in a close election, it could make a difference. I dunno. Grasping at straws here, thinking the man has a political conscience. But it’s either that, or he’s totally delusional. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/307 "2023-06-08T14:02:09Z")
All of these jerkoffs are in a rough spot, or would be in one if GOP voters cared about rationality and contradiction at all, standing on the twin principles of “I will support the eventual GOP candidate” and “Donald Trump doesn’t deserve to be President again.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/308 "2023-06-08T14:44:53Z")
Here’s another take: > **[Mike Pence goes after Donald Trump in CNN Iowa town hall. Here's what he said.](https://www.aol.com/mike-pence-goes-donald-trump-024523209.html)** > > Pence hit Trump over federal spending and entitlement reform, Vladimir Putin, and, most especially, Trump's actions prior to the Jan. 6 insurrection. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/309 "2023-06-08T14:59:35Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Here’s another take: I caught a bit of that. My initial impression was that Pence’s body language was awful. He looked so uncomfortable there, like he really didn’t want to be there. From what I saw, his plan seems to be, “Denounce Trump for January 6th, then spout out all the usual Republican Talking Points”. Trashing Biden for his spending, while ignoring the Trump Tax Cuts that produced a huge deficit with no benefits to the economy, that sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/310 "2023-06-08T15:32:15Z")
I was thinking _Velcro Fly_, complete with removable insect. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/311 "2023-06-08T15:36:25Z")
> [@slicedalone](#): > > “Donald Trump doesn’t deserve to be President again.” Which is of course rich after these dweebs like Haley and Pence worked for him. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/312 "2023-06-08T16:10:01Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Here’s another take: - > > [Mike Pence goes after Donald Trump in CNN Iowa town hall. Here's what he said.](https://www.aol.com/mike-pence-goes-donald-trump-024523209.html) I wonder what kind of dirt he’s being threatened with to make him take such a “courageous” stand. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/313 "2023-06-08T18:52:47Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I dunno. Grasping at straws here, thinking the man has a political conscience. But it’s either that, or he’s totally delusional. He used to be my governor. I’m voting for “delusional” here. Possibly convinced he’s on some sort of mission from God. > [@Horatius](#): > > I caught a bit of that. My initial impression was that Pence’s body language was awful. He looked so uncomfortable there, like he really didn’t want to be there. Naw, he’s always like that. > [@running\_coach](#): > > I wonder what kind of dirt he’s being threatened with to make him take such a “courageous” stand. Or maybe Pence has finally grasped that Trump sent a mob to kill him on Jan 6 and he views it as a matter of survival. If Trump wins again don’t you think he’ll target Pence for venom and bile? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/314 "2023-06-08T18:55:00Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Naw, he’s always like that. Well, I watched the VP debates, the one with The Fly, and didn’t get the same impression. He was stiff, but didn’t look as immediately awful. Maybe they doped him up before, or something, but he was definitely different. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/315 "2023-06-08T21:08:49Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Andy Borowitz nails it, as usual: New one today: > **[Pence Flees in Terror After No One but One Woman Shows Up at Rally](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/pence-flees-in-terror-after-no-one-but-one-woman-shows-up-at-rally)** > > “All the color drained from his face,” a campaign aide said. “Mike was even whiter than usual.” ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/316 "2023-06-08T21:56:15Z")
[https://youtu.be/J6ciaF4vxJw](https://youtu.be/J6ciaF4vxJw) Town hall meeting yesterday where he tries for a folksy grandpa tone urging DOJ to drop Trump indictments. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/317 "2023-06-08T22:17:44Z")
So Pence is attacking Trump as evil one minute and the next minute he’s calling for dropping investigations into Trump’s wrongdoing. Wishy meet Washy. I don’t think that’s gonna sell real well to the red meat crowd. I wonder how much money you can raise, and keep, by campaigning ineffectually? True campaigning is hard grueling work all day every day for a year or two. If you can rake $30M by just phoning it in for a few months then admitting the People have Spoken and you’re not it (this time), that might be better work than he could otherwise get. Until 4 years later when he can try the trick again. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/318 "2023-06-08T22:21:28Z")
> **[‘Backstabbing Judas,’ ‘Traitor,’ ‘Unfit’: MAGA World Absolutely Loses It As...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/backstabbing-judas-traitor-unfit-maga-world-absolutely-loses-it-as-benedict-mike-pence-takes-aim-at-trump-in-campaign-kick-off/ar-AA1cg4ry)** > > Donald Trump's surrogates were frothing at the mouth on after his ex-running mate Mike Pence took aim at Trump on Wednesday. **Pence:** ‘President Trump also demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution… I chose the Constitution, and I always will.’ **Trump supporters:** ‘You betrayed the Constitution by refusing to use your enumerated powers to return suspicious Electoral College returns to utterly corrupt States.’ And ‘No, he told you to send fraudulent election results back to state legislatures for further review as allowed under the Constitution.’ ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/319 "2023-06-09T22:32:14Z")
Let’s all come back in a year, at which time we’ll know who does. (makes popcorn) p.s. A few months ago, I heard a liberal Democratic woman who was in Congress (don’t remember who) say that Mike Pence will later be known as an American hero, for refusing to back down on the 6th. That’s about the only good thing I could say about him myself, beyond that he obviously loves his family. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/320 "2023-06-10T17:55:11Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > beyond that he obviously loves his family. I wonder what his response would be to one of his children coming out as LTGTQ - some evangelicals realize the error of their ways (to be clear, not the child), others disown them. Doesn’t seem to be much to predict which way someone goes. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/321 "2023-06-10T18:49:51Z")
His delivery defending Trump yesterday (specifically attacking the DoJ) was so understated that I literally thought he was going to fall asleep in the middle of a sen [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826.md?page=17)