# Mike Pence in 2024-- please tell me it's not happening **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 5, 2020, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826 "2020-11-05T10:33:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/343 "2023-08-19T22:54:39Z")
Of course their actual goal is to sell the Federal land to insiders for pennies per square mile. Along with the water and mineral rights. You’re right the sagebrushers want the land out of federal hands and into state hands. But far more than that they want it in their own hands. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/344 "2023-10-28T18:22:58Z")
It’s not happening: > ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/345 "2023-10-28T18:29:53Z")
Now he has absolutely no reason to hold back and tell us all about the lead up to January 6. He can say whatever he wants to about Don the Con, his political career is over. Will he? Of course not, he’s still a wimp. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/346 "2023-10-28T19:13:44Z")
🤣 👉 (Me pointing and laughing at Mike Pence) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/347 "2023-10-28T19:32:38Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Now he has absolutely no reason to hold back and tell us all about the lead up to January 6. He can say whatever he wants to about Don the Con, his political career is over. Will he? Of course not, he’s still a wimp. - Breaking news: Wimps outraged at any association with Mike Pence. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/348 "2023-10-30T21:10:11Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > It’s not happening: God told him it’s not time. > **[Mike Pence Suspends his Presidential Campaign](https://wibc.com/172641/mike-pence-suspends-his-presidential-campaign/)** > > Former Vice President Mike Pence announced on Saturday in Las Vegas that he has suspended his presidential campaign.  ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/349 "2023-10-30T21:13:43Z")
God should tell him he has to carry his candidacy to term. ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/350 "2023-10-30T21:20:14Z")
“Breaking: Mike Pence, speaking at the RJC, just said he’s suspending his presidential campaign.” Is anyone surprised by this? I’m surprised he even attempted to run against Trump. I’m sure he’ll end up endorsing his old friend, who nearly got him hung. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/351 "2023-10-30T21:39:46Z")
Hanged. ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/352 "2023-10-30T21:52:22Z")
Hanged. I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/353 "2023-10-30T21:57:16Z")
Now I’m trying to avoid thinking about Mike Prince being well-hung. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/354 "2023-10-30T23:30:43Z")
Mother wouldn’t like this kind of talk! ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/355 "2023-10-30T23:42:59Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > God should tell him he has to carry his candidacy to term. Good one! I actually expect him to do his best remora imitation and valiantly attempt to reattach himself to Trump’s ass, because he convinced himself that it was what God wanted him to do. He might even try to get the band back together and beg for his old job back, which will be fun to watch. The delusions of the God-Bothering Lickspittle know no bounds, it has always amazed me that even after being at the center of Trump’s pressure campaign, that he felt it was a good idea to bring his wife and daughter to the Capitol with him on January 6th. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/356 "2023-10-31T00:59:25Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Now I’m trying to avoid thinking about Mike Prince being well-hung. Mike Pence, not Mike Prince. _stoopid auto-correct_ ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/357 "2023-10-31T01:00:53Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I actually expect him to do his best remora imitation and valiantly attempt to reattach himself to Trump’s ass, because he convinced himself that it was what God wanted him to do. He might even try to get the band back together … Would he then be on a mission from God? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/358 "2024-03-16T02:35:03Z")
> **[Pence says he won't endorse Trump in 2024](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/pence-wont-endorse-trump/)** > > Former Vice President Mike Pence said he "cannot in good conscience" endorse Trump for president in 2024. > [@](#): > > The former vice president’s refusal to back Trump is a reversal from early in the primary campaign, when [he raised his hand](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-debate-if-trump-is-convicted-support-as-president-jan-6-indictments-pence/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab4i) during the first Republican debate to say he would support Trump as the party’s nominee even if he were to be convicted. Not a Biden endorsement, but more than I expected. Will Haley also flip-flop on the hand raise? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/359 "2024-03-16T02:55:02Z")
Thinking about it some more, maybe Pence is doing exactly the best he can for Biden. If pro-NATO, and thus anti-Trump, Republicans like Pence (others might include John Bolton and, gulp, GW Bush) explicitly endorse Biden, this could signal those on Biden’s left that Joe isn’t in their camp, sending them over to Cornel West. So a never-Trump message, without a clear nod to Biden, may be their wisest, most patriotic, move. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/360 "2024-03-16T03:47:46Z")
I’m guessing that Pence’s fear of the people who wanted to hang him on Capitol grounds has more to do with his reluctance than NATO. But what do I know. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/361 "2024-03-16T20:50:44Z")
What Pence should have said: > [@](#): > > In our nation’s 236-year history, there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump. — [Former U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney, August 2022](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/05/dick-cheney-trump-liz-cheney-threat-republic) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/362 "2024-03-16T21:02:19Z")
Honestly there’s no silver bullet. Some Republicans need to decline to endorse. Others have to regretfully say that they will vote for Joe Biden. Via Kevin Drum, here are a list of major Trump appointees who have turned on him in some way. > 1. Vice President Mike Pence > > 2, 3. Chiefs of Staff John Kelly, Mick Mulvaney > > 4, 5. Secretaries of State Rex Tillerson, Mike Pompeo > > 6, 7. Secretaries of Defense Mike Esper, Jim Mattis > > 1. Attorney General Bill Barr > > 2. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos > > 3. Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao > > 4. HHS Secretary Alex Azar > > 12, 13. National Security Advisors John Bolton, H.R. McMaster > > 1. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley > > 2. Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats > > 16, 17, 18. Directors of Communications Stephanie Grisham, Anthony Scaramucci, Alyssa Farah Griffin Some of these need to come out in explicit support of Joe Biden. Those will be dismissed by some Republicans, who might have their views shifted by Mike Pence. Preservation of our 240 year experiment with democracy requires a variety of approaches. We should keep long memories regarding billionaires who currently finance Trump or -now the same thing- the RNC. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826.md?page=19)