# Mike Pence in 2024-- please tell me it's not happening **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 5, 2020, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826 "2020-11-05T10:33:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/122 "2021-04-13T01:46:57Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The former is where Pence would try to fit but, really, it takes someone with a personality. Does he have less of a personality than Bush the younger? Probably. But what about Bush the Elder, or Nixon? I don’t see it, and don’t think charisma helps or hurts, beyond a point. Now, if anyone remembers Admiral Stockdale, I admit that he had a problem in this area. But Pence isn’t like that. If DJT doesn’t run, and Pence’s opponents split the complete-and-total Trumper lane, Pence, as the mostly-Trumper, can win the 2024 nomination. Unless we look to be in complete recovery from the COVID recession, 2024 will be a bad year to make predictions about. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/123 "2021-04-13T02:00:53Z")
Now that 45 has chucked, shoved, jostled, pushed, and thrown him under the bus, I don’t see the mad orange supporters putting Pence in any office. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/124 "2021-04-13T02:25:16Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Now that 45 has chucked, shoved, jostled, pushed, and thrown him under the bus, I don’t see the mad orange supporters putting Pence in any office. Even DJT may have a sell-by date. Consider [this recent poll](https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-mike-pence-lead-latest-poll-2024-republican-presidential-candidate-1578569): > [@](#): > > DeSantis was the top choice, with 17 percent of respondents supporting him, in the poll released Wednesday by GOP polling firm Echelon Insights. Pence was the runner-up with 16 percent support. Former President [Donald Trump](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/donald-trump) was not an available choice, with the poll asking which GOP candidate voters would prefer if Trump does not attempt to win a non-consecutive second term. > > The third most popular choice, far behind the leaders with 5 percent support, was Texas Senator [Ted Cruz](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/ted-cruz). 538 rates Echelon Insights B/C. Not stellar, but no worse than some pollster brand names. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/125 "2021-04-13T02:38:17Z")
P.S. on my last post, about Pence polling fairly well: Yes, that may just be name recognition. But there are a lot of soft Trumpers who refuse to see DJT for what he is because then they would have to question what political team they are on. Those voters are the ones who I think would refuse to take Trump’s rants against Pence as seriously intended. They can give Pence a lane. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/126 "2021-04-13T12:41:32Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > > Engaged? The ones who were "engaged’ in yelling for him to be hanged, and building a gallows outside the Capitol Building? - > > Ah, c’mon. They just wanted to put him on a pedestal. I guess we can say that a head on a pike is sorta on a pedestal: a real skinny pedestal. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/127 "2021-04-14T16:45:36Z")
That kind of pedestal is the _best_. That’s what people are saying. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/128 "2021-04-14T18:23:35Z")
I kindof expect Donald Jr. to run ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/129 "2021-04-14T20:17:04Z")
He’s certainly nasty and stupid enough to be a strong contender for his party’s nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/130 "2021-04-15T01:01:57Z")
It must be kind of insulting to women that he cannot relate to them as human beings, but only as females. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/131 "2021-04-15T23:27:50Z")
He had a heart pacemaker inserted today. Might very well rule him out for 2024 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/132 "2021-04-15T23:35:39Z")
Doctors had to have a special one made, for a heart that was two sizes too small. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/133 "2021-04-15T23:55:47Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I guess we can say that a head on a pike is sorta on a pedestal: a real skinny pedestal. If I happen to encounter him, I’ll be sure to wave. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/134 "2021-04-16T15:03:18Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > If I happen to encounter him, I’ll be sure to wave. [https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/vir\_cotto.jpg?resize=768%2C432](https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/vir_cotto.jpg?resize=768%2C432) [Reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWE43m9SL4I) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/135 "2021-04-17T21:56:17Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > I kindof expect Donald Jr. to run > [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > He’s certainly nasty and stupid enough to be a strong contender for his party’s nomination. > [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > It must be kind of insulting to women that he cannot relate to them as human beings, but only as females. > [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > He had a heart pacemaker inserted today. Might very well rule him out for 2024 Had to re-read these four successive posts to determine the first two were about Trump Jr. and the next two about Pence again. (at least I’m pretty sure the third’s about Pence) ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/136 "2021-04-18T20:18:35Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > (at least I’m pretty sure the third’s about Pence) It certainly was about Pence. The bit about not being able to have dinner with a woman not his wife. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/137 "2021-04-18T21:09:35Z")
I thought his rule (and Billy Graham’s) was, he wouldn’t ever be _alone_ with a woman not his wife? I’m pretty sure he’s dined with other women, just with other people around. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/138 "2021-04-23T16:46:56Z")
> **[2024 United States presidential election | Republican Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Republican_Party)** > > Donald Trump was defeated by Biden in 2020 and is currently eligible to run again in 2024. Currently he is seeking to become the second president to serve two non-consecutive terms, after only Grover Cleveland (who did so by winning the 1892 United States presidential election). Trump is considered an early frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, following his 2024 campaign announcement on November 15, 2022. However, there are multiple factors working against Trump: th Trump annou... Polls suggest that if Trump doesn’t run, Pence will be one of the top contenders along with Ron De Santis. Yes, some of that may be name recognition but that’s what they kept saying about Biden too. I think Pence still has a shot though the non-Trump front-runner at this stage is probably De Santis. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/139 "2021-04-23T16:52:20Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I thought his rule (and Billy Graham’s) was, he wouldn’t ever be _alone_ with a woman not his wife? I’m pretty sure he’s dined with other women, just with other people around. - I’m pretty sure there was at least once he refused to dine alone with another woman _in public._ ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/140 "2021-04-23T16:54:40Z")
Yeah. Pence has the (mostly residual now) respectability that the totally disgusted anti-trump Rs need as a fig leaf to vote R again despite their misgivings about the crazy wing. And he has enough Trump stink on him that he can run on the “All the Evil, but now with less Crazy” platform. If he can pick an up-and-coming crazy as his VP he’s a shoo-in. De Santis may already be too far along in his own path to presidential nominee that he can’t / won’t play VP to Pence. But for sure Pence can find a bombastic know-nothing in the ranks of the lesser Rs to fill the “All Crazy all the Time” square that so many rabid RWs seem to want/demand. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/141 "2021-04-24T04:46:09Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If he can pick an up-and-coming crazy as his VP he’s a shoo-in. Certainly plenty of well-known names to choose from. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826.md?page=8)