# Mike Pence in 2024-- please tell me it's not happening **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 5, 2020, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826 "2020-11-05T10:33:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/142 "2021-04-25T18:48:19Z")
A veritable bumper crop in the GOP these days. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/143 "2021-04-26T15:25:58Z")
Statutory rape? Any publicity is good publicity. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/144 "2021-04-30T05:52:58Z")
Here’s some news: > **[Eying 2024, Pence makes 1st speech since leaving office](https://apnews.com/article/politics-michael-pence-columbia-south-carolina-election-2020-a7af5d0190c44be756fe8965f40e1518)** > > In his first public address since the end of the Trump administration, former Vice President Mike Pence put down a marker for a potential return to elected office, telling an audience in early-voting South Carolina that he plans to use the coming... > [@](#): > > In his first public address since the end of the Trump administration, former Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday put down a marker for a potential return to elected office, telling an audience in early-voting South Carolina that he will use the coming months “pushing back on the liberal agenda” he says is wrong for the country. > > “We’ve got to guard our values … by offering a positive agenda to the American people, grounded in our highest ideals,” Pence told an audience of several hundred at a Columbia dinner sponsored by a conservative Christian nonprofit that lobbies for what it considers to be “biblical values,” such as heterosexual marriage. “Now, over the coming months, I’ll have more to say about all of that.” Mike’s not fuckin’ around with that weak-ass _two weeks_ bullshit; he’s jumping right up to _months_. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/145 "2021-04-30T15:23:08Z")
Classic salesmanship: underpromise and overdeliver. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/146 "2021-04-30T19:47:17Z")
This is suitably scathing: > **[Our 'Fraidy of Perpetual Toadying, Mike Pence, is \*still\* sucking up to Trump](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/4/30/2028349/-Our-Fraidy-of-Perpetual-Toadying-aka-Mike-Pence-is-still-sucking-up-to-Trump?pm_source=story_sidebar&pm_medium=web&pm_campaign=most-shared)** > > No one has ever tried to have me killed before (that I know of), but if someone did, I doubt I’d sing hosannas and paeans to him mere months after he’d sent a mob to my workplace to murder me—or after he’d ignored my plaintive cries for help when... ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/147 "2021-05-01T20:15:49Z")
Holy crap, he’s so spineless that Waylon Smithers would tell him “dude, grow a pair”. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/148 "2021-05-01T21:10:11Z")
I don’t see a path for Pence right now, but whatever my feelings about him may be, I’ll concede that he has pretty sharp political instincts and survival skills. He’d like to run in 2024 but there’s time for a 2028 run if the path isn’t there in a few years, and anything he does between now and 2023-24 is probably setting the table for a later run once the Trump brand’s lifecycle expires, which it eventually will. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/149 "2021-05-04T14:50:16Z")
Speed the day! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/150 "2021-05-04T17:08:21Z")
Pence: “We’ve got to guard our values" What values would those be? Humping porn stars and then paying them to shut up? Lying about a pandemic and thinking bleaching your lungs will help? The value of inciting a violent mob to attack the Capital? Blustering about locking up your political opponents? Those Republican Values? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/151 "2021-05-04T17:28:24Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Pence: “We’ve got to guard our values" > > What values would those be? > Humping porn stars and then paying them to shut up? > Lying about a pandemic and thinking bleaching your lungs will help? > The value of inciting a violent mob to attack the Capital? > Blustering about locking up your political opponents? > > Those Republican Values? - What values would you expect a Super Christian to stand up for? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/152 "2021-05-04T17:33:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > What values would you expect a Super Christian to stand up for? I guess the most important one would be the Value of Exploiting Marks to Send You Money to Pad Your Own Bank Account. Seems that is what passes for “Christian values” in most of the country. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/153 "2021-05-04T18:53:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Pence: “We’ve got to guard our values" > > What values would those be? > Humping porn stars and then paying them to shut up? > Lying about a pandemic and thinking bleaching your lungs will help? > The value of inciting a violent mob to attack the Capital? > Blustering about locking up your political opponents? > > Those Republican Values? Force women to have children they don’t want, then refuse to support a social safety net for them? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/154 "2021-05-04T22:14:18Z")
Trump’s personal political decline doesn’t necessarily portend the demise of Republican authoritarianism. What Trump will be remembered for, regardless of his political lifespan, is that he mainstreamed the GOP as the party of illiberal democracy. That die is cast. That is not going to change until an overwhelming majority of the population sends an unmistakable middle finger to that brand of politics, and unfortunately, we are nowhere close to that moment now. In fact, the impending ouster of Liz Cheney makes it very clear: the Republican party is openly illiberal. They’re not even hiding it now. They are openly standing against free and fair elections, and all of the consequences that result therefrom. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/155 "2021-05-05T14:32:17Z")
That may all be true, but this country and democracy itself would be better without Trump than with him. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/156 "2021-05-06T15:47:52Z")
Trump is still denouncing Pence for following the law and constitution, so I cannot imagine who would back him for president now. He has offended both the Trump wing and the never Trump wing. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/157 "2021-05-09T16:19:23Z")
Nah - the GOP’ll just keep buying bigger clothespins. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/158 "2021-05-09T17:06:10Z")
Mike Pence & clothes pins - There’s an image I didn’t need. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/159 "2021-06-04T13:17:26Z")
Understatement of the year, nay, the century: > **[Mike Pence on Donald Trump: 'I don't know if we'll ever see eye to eye' on...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/03/politics/pence-trump-january-6/index.html)** > > Former Vice President Mike Pence acknowledged on Thursday that he and former President Donald Trump maintain starkly different views of the riot that unfolded at the US Capitol on January 6. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/160 "2021-06-04T13:29:06Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Understatement of the year, nay, the century: - > > [https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/03/politics/pence-trump-january-6/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/03/politics/pence-trump-january-6/index.html) Which eye? The two dark blue or the one brown? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mike-pence-in-2024-please-tell-me-its-not-happening/924826/161 "2021-06-04T15:34:10Z")
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