# Mild Pitting of Beck

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 12, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691 "2024-10-12T05:25:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/201 "2024-10-14T03:41:18Z")

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This poster seemed to be egging on the Pile on. I question the motives. They were shut down on the money begging, and eventually reported.

Seems like there is something else there…

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/202 "2024-10-14T03:41:54Z")

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No egging on was needed. We used to message and chat. Posters here mildly pitting her do not need my help but even I was tired of the victim mentality.  
I was pitted and changed my way of posting. It can be done.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/203 "2024-10-14T03:42:28Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Why you are so riled up on her behalf because she is being criticized, is somewhat out of proportion.

She is my friend, and this is very upsetting to her. And I think it sucks.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/204 "2024-10-14T03:42:57Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Me too. But that Scammer Asshole fingered her for a Mark.

Oh, got it. Context is everything, and I missed that.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/205 "2024-10-14T03:45:00Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> > [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> > But it is nearly impossible to ignore her effect on threads where she starts stating her unpopular opinions as facts, and generating dozens of replies and arguments, derailing whatever discussion was going on to the extent that I often end up abandoning those threads as indecipherable.
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> Heaven Forbid she actually creates debate and Pops your little Echo Bubble

Yeah, that’s exactly what I said, right.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/206 "2024-10-14T03:51:56Z")

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See? We can agree on something! 😄

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/207 "2024-10-14T03:58:12Z")

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Left Hand, who is too smart for me, is coming in with a Bombshell, I’m sure…

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/208 "2024-10-14T04:00:33Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> She is my friend, and this is very upsetting to her. And I think it sucks.

Here’s what she can do:

1. Say, “Hey, that was uncalled for for me to say that Walz looks like he can’t cook. I didn’t realize I was being a sexist asshole when I said that, but I’ve thought about it, and I see where I’ve got some sexist stereotypes I apply, and that’s not cool. Sorry, y’all; I’ll work on it.”
2. Before posting something about a person based on their gender, maybe fuckin don’t, until she gets a lot clearer on her sexist preconceptions.
3. Never again tell us that she’s nice. Nice people don’t have to tell people that they’re nice people. If you’re telling people that you’re nice, it’s because they’re seeing evidence to the contrary.
4. Knock it off with the “that’s just my opinion” nonsense. When your opinions are bigoted, they suck, and it’s great when bigoted opinions get called out.

I’m sure she’s upset, but the upset is because she doesn’t want to confront the ways in which she’s being an asshole, and it’s a lot easier for her to throw a pity party for herself than to engage in introspection. I don’t have much respect for that.

But if she shows some introspection (here–I have no interest in PMs), good on her.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/209 "2024-10-14T04:06:53Z")

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Is there no rule here about talking about PM’s _ **Private** _ Messages? Publically? Oh well, I have no horse in this race. I disagreed with her opinions of Walz. I disagree with her and lots of people here.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/210 "2024-10-14T04:15:09Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Here’s what she can do:

Why does she have to do anything?

Why can’t people who disagree with her simply move on?

For a Board about Empathy and Compassion and Touchy-Feely shit, can’t you just move over it.

It’s been brought up many times, this place is a refuge for her. One of very few. So maybe, people piling on her is somewhat disproportion in upsetting her.

She don’t hurt nobody, so why not just fucking ignore her instead of Cyber-Bullying her ever few weeks?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/211 "2024-10-14T04:17:02Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Why does she have to do anything?

She doesn’t have to do anything. The word “can” and the word “have” are not the same word.

It’s what she CAN do if she wants to take responsibility for being a sexist asshole. If she doesn’t want to, she doesn’t have to. And folks will respond accordingly.

> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> It’s been brought up many times, this place is a refuge for her. One of very few. So maybe, people piling on her is somewhat disproportion in upsetting her.

Cool! Maybe she shouldn’t shit in her refuge. She doesn’t have to stop shitting here, but she can. If she can stop shitting here, she might find the place less upsetting.

She’s got power here, if she’s unhappy with how she’s being treated. She can use that power. Or she can wallow in self-pity. Choice is hers.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/212 "2024-10-14T04:18:35Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Flamed out over some dispute with Beck and flounced.
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> Oh, he was back recently, after getting bailed out by Dopers, including one big “Anonymous” doner, and issued an apology to the very same Beck.

In my world, when we donate anonymously, we don’t brag to other people about it.

Who told you about her big anonymous donation?

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/213 "2024-10-14T04:19:46Z")

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If generic you are going to post here and have any opinions you have to be willing to take flack. That’s just reality. You have to defend yourself with logic and facts. A lot like defending your interpretation of literature in lit class.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/214 "2024-10-14T04:19:53Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> Is there no rule here about talking about PM’s _ **Private** _ Messages? Publically?

This is The Pit. That Poster was trying to get money after ‘befriending’ Beck. It went on for a while. A Mod was notified.

And now they are piling on. I think motives are in question. At least should be examined. PM’s are public, if shared.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/215 "2024-10-14T04:21:53Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> For a Board about Empathy and Compassion and Touchy-Feely shit

I thought this board was about fighting ignorance. Which she contributes in spades.

> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Why can’t people who disagree with her simply move on?

Why can’t **she** do that instead of doubling down and playing victim? And why can’t she defend herself instead of fucking off and leaving people like you to white-knight for her?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/216 "2024-10-14T04:22:16Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Who told you about her big anonymous donation?

I never made any claim as to where that donation came from. Hell, could have been me. But it would have been a dollar less! 😁

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/217 "2024-10-14T04:23:12Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I thought this board was about fighting ignorance.

Really? You wanna keep pushing that shit?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/218 "2024-10-14T04:25:14Z")

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I misinterpreted the spirit of your post. Good One! 😄

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/219 "2024-10-14T04:30:52Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I never made any claim as to where that donation came from.

So she bragged to you about her large anonymous donation. Thanks for sharing!

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/220 "2024-10-14T04:32:16Z")

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Nope. Not at all. In fact that is kind of an Asshole Accusation on your part. Would you care to retract it?

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