# Mild Pitting of Beck

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 12, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691 "2024-10-12T05:25:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 14

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/261 "2024-10-14T13:11:21Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Does this mean that my PMs to BB are now fair game to be openly shared on the Dope?

> [@Reorganized SDMB rules](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reorganized-sdmb-rules/968857/1):
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> **Private messages.** Private messages are subject to the same rules as the SDMB. There is no guarantee of privacy in these messages. You assume the risk that any PM you send may be made public by the recipient.

This is true of not only SDMB PMs but any private communication with any other person on the planet who isn’t your lawyer, doctor or priest.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/262 "2024-10-14T13:16:26Z")

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Once I told Poster M about something Poster Y says they told to Poster F. Then Poster M told Poster R what I said and Poster R spoke to Poster J and claimed I said something entirely different about Poster V. I told Poster T about this but they just said they talked to Poster L and Poster K and both of them said they heard the same thing from Poster G but they knew it was really Poster W who said those things. Who should I believe here?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/263 "2024-10-14T13:30:52Z")

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You should believe the guy who advises you to never use PMs. They make things chaotic when you use them.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/264 "2024-10-14T13:52:00Z")

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This is a distraction from the deserved pitting.  
Beck and I were online friends.  
I had wanted to stay friends but when I dared criticize her hijacking and pitying she did not want to be friends anymore.  
If I didn’t exist Beck would still be pitted.  
A Lot here have the same complaints about her.  
Will she try and post better?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/265 "2024-10-14T14:21:27Z")

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> [@Reorganized SDMB rules](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reorganized-sdmb-rules/968857/1):
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> > [@Reorganized SDMB rules](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reorganized-sdmb-rules/968857/1):
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> > **Private messages.** Private messages are subject to the same rules as the SDMB. There is no guarantee of privacy in these messages. You assume the risk that any PM you send may be made public by the recipient.
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> This is true of not only SDMB PMs but any private communication with any other person on the planet who isn’t your lawyer, doctor or priest.

Although it should noted that there are still plagiarism and copyright considerations. Claiming something sent to you as being created by you is obviously unethical. Private communications are automatically protected by copyright, so we shouldn’t be reposting the entirety of someone else’s work. Fair use, especially for critique or satire can allow for a lot, though.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/266 "2024-10-14T14:28:06Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Who should I believe here?

The salesman at Micro Center when he says that your keyboard committed suicide?

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/267 "2024-10-14T14:41:18Z")

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> [@vbob](#):
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> My dad was fond of stating “_I’m only nice to people I don’t like_”

As someone with years of various customer service jobs in her rearview - and a current job in a restaurant kitchen where I’m often working the drive-thru - I felt the truth of this statement in my bones.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/268 "2024-10-14T15:16:11Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> As it is, though, I was wondering if someone would start a thread about that latest bit of obnoxiousness; and here we are.

No, we’re not. This thread was created by a mod as a spin-off from the “What were you thinking?” thread. It wasn’t a thread created to pit **Beck**. It was undoubtedly created with the best intentions to keep from cluttering the other thread, but making it its own thread has had the unintended side effect of hugely increasing the profile of this particular pile-on.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Here’s what she can do:

I’m sure you’re genuinely trying to be helpful, but you’re a pretty smart guy and it surprises me that you apparently don’t see how arrogant and pompous that whole post sounds, as if **Beck** was a small child and not a functional adult with her own beliefs and values informed by lived experiences that you haven’t had and have no business being judgmental about. You’re entitled to disagree with her, but not to give a lecture on character improvement to an adult who may well have more wisdom than you, and certainly a lot more humility.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/269 "2024-10-14T15:21:02Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> You’re entitled to disagree with her, but not to give a lecture on character improvement to an adult who may well have more wisdom than you, and certainly a lot more humility.

Here, here!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/270 "2024-10-14T15:21:31Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> No, we’re not. This thread was created by a mod as a spin-off from the “What were you thinking?” thread. It wasn’t a thread created to pit **Beck**. It was undoubtedly created with the best intentions to keep from cluttering the other thread, but making it its own thread has had the unintended side effect of hugely increasing the profile of this particular pile-on.

Yep, I never expected this to happen. I just wanted the Beck, back and forth out of the thread I followed. The only two pit thread I generally read are the Troll thread and [What were you THINKING?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532). This came from the second. I thought it was a mild thing.

And now I will be disappearing for 3 hours to install a new garage door opener.

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**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/271 "2024-10-14T15:25:44Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Here, here!

Where? Where?

Or did you mean Hear Hear!

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/272 "2024-10-14T15:41:22Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> This is true of not only SDMB PMs but any private communication with any other person on the planet who isn’t your lawyer, doctor or priest.

As a practical matter this is true, and in fact one of the most sensible things I was taught in grad school was “assume every single thing you write will eventually be made public.” I tried to remember that whenever I was tempted to write a “private” email at work.

Still, I would hope for better behavior from people. A lot of things that are unseemly aren’t literally against the rules.

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**Author:** ![We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/We_re_wolves_not_werewolves)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/273 "2024-10-14T15:42:42Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Will she try and post better?

you can fuck right off with this faux concern shit. If you want to pit her for saying someone doesn’t look like a cook (you do? really?), go right ahead. But please stop trying to frame this pile-on as some sort of teaching moment where your utmost concern and most earnest hope is just to try to help her become a better person and poster. It’s phony as shit.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/274 "2024-10-14T15:46:48Z")

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_Hides face in embarrassment_

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/275 "2024-10-14T15:48:42Z")

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Bp.  
I do think she can post better.  
Also maybe its a good idea to avoid the lengthy hijacks by just not replying.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/276 "2024-10-14T17:41:11Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Private communications are automatically protected by copyright, so we shouldn’t be reposting the entirety of someone else’s work.

IIRC, part of the terms and agreement was that we automatically transfer all copyright to TPTB so theoretically they can make a book out of our threads and make a mint. I think PMs fall under that as well so the owners of SD are the ones to enforce any copyright and unlike trademarks, there is no requirement to do so.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/277 "2024-10-14T17:59:38Z")

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I like Beck’s threads for the most part. They’re light and lighthearted and generally inoffensive. I’ll often pop into them just to read the OP in the same way I might flip the paper over to read Peanuts.

That’s why it’s depressing that, over the last few years, I’ve found myself more and more thinking “classic Beck” when she comes into other posters’ threads with her particular brand of folksy judgement. I recall being very dismayed by her attitude in the Panera charged lemonade thread.

Regarding this specific incident: judging Tim Walz on his looks was silly, but whatever. It was the digital ink spilled to justify it and attack everybody else instead of just saying “yes, withdrawn, that was a silly thing to say” that made me sigh and think _classic Beck._

I guess that makes me one of the mean nasty haters who is just out to get the nicest niciest lady these boards have ever seen. Because there are only two sides, right? The fans and the people who hate her because they’re jealous or whatever?

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/278 "2024-10-14T18:06:58Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Once I told Poster M about something Poster Y says they told to Poster F. Then Poster M told Poster R what I said and Poster R spoke to Poster J and claimed I said something entirely different about Poster V. I told Poster T about this but they just said they talked to Poster L and Poster K and both of them said they heard the same thing from Poster G but they knew it was really Poster W who said those things.

You, too?!

I thought it was just me.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/279 "2024-10-14T18:36:51Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I’m sure you’re genuinely trying to be helpful

👍 😀 👍

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**Author:** ![vbob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vbob/32/4439_2.png) [@vbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vbob)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/280 "2024-10-14T18:38:06Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> job in a restaurant kitchen where I’m often working the drive-thru

He also taught me to be VERY nice to anyone who was touching my food. No fool he!

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