# Mild Pitting of Beck **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 12, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691 "2024-10-12T05:25:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/21 "2024-10-12T19:13:06Z")
Why did he never put anything out that was quite as sublime a masterpiece as _Mellow Gold_? I mean, _Odelay_ was in some ways superior, but that was as much due to the Dust Brothers “dirty 70’s” aesthetic as it was to his innate talents. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/22 "2024-10-12T19:18:00Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > It was in the Pit, nothing could be actionable about what you wrote. Are you sure about that? > [@Revised Forum Rules for the BBQ Pit: read this before posting](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revised-forum-rules-for-the-bbq-pit-read-this-before-posting/487209/1): > > **No hate speech** > > If you say hateful and/or racist things, you may get warned or banned. Some slurs are likely to be viewed as hate speech when used as insults, some aren’t. No, we aren’t going to give you a list. Our goal is not to restrict any and all speech which could be viewed by someone as offensive, but simply keep a modicum of decency, even here. > > **No trolling** > > By trolling, we mean posting of inflammatory comments solely to get a rise out of people. If we feel your primary goal as a poster is to make people mad, you’ll quickly find yourself on the road to banning. On the flip side, the fact that a poster consistently makes you mad doesn’t automatically make them a troll. Isn’t that what these pit threads targeting members is for? To troll them just to get a rise out of people. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/23 "2024-10-12T19:21:22Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Why did he never put anything out that was quite as sublime a masterpiece as _Mellow Gold_? I mean, _Odelay_ was in some ways superior, but that was as much due to the Dust Brothers “dirty 70’s” aesthetic as it was to his innate talents. I mean, I love all of his music, but I can never forgive him for being into Scientology. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/24 "2024-10-12T19:21:42Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > On further reflection, I apologize. You used the word “oeuvre”. I’m not sure if that is forgivable. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/25 "2024-10-12T19:23:07Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I mean, I love all of his music, but I can never forgive him for being into Scientology. He was very encouraging to Bender, though. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/MJ96N3xVZnk/hqdefault.jpg "OMG you’re Beck - Bender meets Beck") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ96N3xVZnk) ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/26 "2024-10-12T19:27:29Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > some of the comments above verge on being needlessly cruel and were certainly unnecessary. **Beck** ’s opinions may sometimes be frivolous or old-school conservative, but so what? If it bothers you so much may I kindly suggest that you just put her on ignore. > > **Beck** ’s various thoughts and ramblings about her crazy home life remind me a little of the writer Shirley Jackson’s reminiscences about her own domestic adventures (“Life Among the Savages”). Except that Jackson was a deeply troubled person, whereas **Beck** seems to exude a commendable sense of cheerful optimism despite her considerable health problems. Her love of animals tells me all I need to know about her character. **You don’t have to like her, you don’t have to read her posts, but you guys can surely manage to avoid beating up on her for no particular reason**. [my bolding, for emphasis] I heartily concur and endorse this message. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/27 "2024-10-12T19:33:34Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Though people will read it and judge what you wrote most likely; so the apology seems like a good idea. I heartily agree with this message also. This one as well, kudos for posting it, @Mighty_Mouse. … > [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > On further reflection, I apologize. That was way over the line in my own judgement. Whether the mods find it actionable or not. > > I was absolutely engaging in offensive stereotyping ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/28 "2024-10-12T19:36:05Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > > > I mean, I love all of his music, but I can never forgive him for being into Scientology. > > He was very encouraging to Bender, though. Well, Bender has always been a jerk and an asshole, so that’s low praise. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/29 "2024-10-12T19:39:14Z")
I must now wonder if I look like I can cook. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/30 "2024-10-12T19:40:08Z")
The hat in your avatar looks like you can cook squirrels trailside. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/31 "2024-10-12T19:40:54Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > I must now wonder if I look like I can cook. Better watch out if you have joined eyebrows, because then you’re surely a criminal. Hey, it’s the same logic! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/32 "2024-10-12T19:43:00Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > And judging from his other statements about his military service and his China visits. I’d say he embellishes. Alot. I’d say that two misstatements over a long career hardly makes him a serial liar. He served honorably for 24 years, end of story. And he’s served honorably in Congress and in the governor’s job, which is more than most politicians can say. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/33 "2024-10-12T19:45:30Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I mean, I love all of his music, but I can never forgive him for being into Scientology. I can half-forgive him because I understand he was dragged into the cult as a child. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/34 "2024-10-12T19:52:27Z")
I didn’t know that, and yes, that makes it more excusable, but OTOH I was dragged into Catholicism as a child but very soon got out of it. It wasn’t hard. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/35 "2024-10-12T19:57:56Z")
Heh, me, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jebbilene](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jebbilene/32/3414_2.png) [@Jebbilene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebbilene)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/36 "2024-10-12T20:09:55Z")
I guess you have to apologize because her fans are going to be nasty to you otherwise, but jeez, you are bang on, and it sucks that you feel you can’t say it. Yes, I have Beck on ignore already, so no one bother telling me to do that, but she posts enough garbage in her non bad, bad threads that normal people sometimes interact with her, and I check her posts to see what they are talking about. That stuff about Tim Walz is blatant sexism, and I’m amazed she gets a pass on it. And if you just love Beck and her schtick so much that reading this upsets you, maybe don’t come into her Pit thread. Because she pisses some people off as well, and this is the thread for talking about that. You guys have a zillion fan threads where you can gush about how nice she is. If Beck is troubled by a mild Pit thread about her, she can mute it so that she never has to see it. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/37 "2024-10-12T20:10:04Z")
I will say that I would not voluntarily start posting in a separate Pit thread for Beck. I got here by accident. I did find her hijack of the Tim Walz hot dish recipe thread, which I started, mildly exasperating. The thread was supposed to be about the cultural aspects of hot dish and/or the accuracy of recipe writing (two topics I find most engaging). But Beck was starting to turn into a thread about her impressions of whether or not Tim looks like he cooks. I reported the hijack. So I own my comment in the “What were you THINKING?” thread, as I was gratified to realize that it was not just me, others could see the problem. Thus, my “I appreciate this observation” post. But, to repeat myself, I wouldn’t come down on Beck in a Pit thread of her own. I unquestionably take exception to some of her attitudes and behaviors, but there are far more egregious targets for pitting out there. I would not energetically pick on someone who has told us that she is, more or less as I understand it, a homebody with health challenges who is tongue-tied when out and about in public. I believe the Dope is a significant source of community and support for Beck. It’s nice that it can offer that. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/38 "2024-10-12T20:19:46Z")
> [@Jebbilene](#): > > I guess you have to apologize because her fans are going to be nasty to you otherwise, but jeez, you are bang on, and it sucks that you feel you can’t say it. I think I was quite clear in why I apologized. It was because I didn’t like what I said when I read it again. I did not apologize because I was afraid of retribution. ---
**Author:** ![Jebbilene](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jebbilene/32/3414_2.png) [@Jebbilene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebbilene)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/39 "2024-10-12T20:31:57Z")
Ok, fair enough. I’m just cranky that people say “it’s a good thing you apologised because we’d all think so much less of you”, as if you can’t have your own thoughts and feelings about someone. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/40 "2024-10-12T20:45:36Z")
Sexist? Wth? My Daddy was a great cook. My Son is a great cook. My ex-SIL is a head chef in a fancy restaurant in New Orleans. (The deer camp cooks? Umm…lets not go there) It’s not that Walz is a man. It’s that he probably can throw a casserole together. But, who can’t? Jesus, man. This is common knowledge. This does not make a great chef/cook. Again, I think he embellishes stuff. He’s proved this. I did not say he was a serial liar. I think he likes to talk himself up. Many folks do that. He’s running for the 2nd highest office in the land. Of course he has to talk about himself. Accentuate the positive, and all. He has a persona he needs to propagate. That’s politics. He is in the public eye. Open for opinions on him. If some of you are foolish enough to believe he wrote those recipes, I just don’t what to tell you… The reason something was wrong with recipe, in the first place is because it was copied from somewhere and whoever posted it needed to change it so as not to be accused of plagiarizing it. Anyway…@Jebbilene, Who the heck are you and what rock did you slither out from under? If you despise me so much, quit reading me. And yes you read my posts. Alot. Otherwise you wouldn’t know me. You read me. Yes, yes you do. So flattering. I’m happy to know you love me. But this ain’t the school playground, kicking dirt on me won’t get the attention you want. Talk nice and I will like you immediately. 'Cause that’s how I roll. Oops. Maybe I judged you. So sorry. You put it out there and say nasty things about me. What did you expect me to do? @Jebbilene, you are not required to read me. No one ever said you were. That doesn’t give you leeway to insult me when we’ve never interacted. I don’t think I’ve ever seen your Avatar or name in any thread. That’s ok, tho’ (oh, here I go judging again…) you need to check your attitude. I’m not your enemy. Don’t accuse me of things you “judge” I am. Because you are wrong. Wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691.md?page=3)