# Mild Pitting of Beck **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 12, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691 "2024-10-12T05:25:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/641 "2025-05-07T19:47:34Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > it’s not so much the paper, as it is the toner / ink cartridges. On my printer, I print 10 things and it starts screaming at me that I’m out of ink. Printers are all the work of Satan. This is common knowledge. I beg to differ. It’s ink jet printers that are the work of Satan. The print quality isn’t always great and the jets tend to dry out. Laser printers work just fine. And the toner cartridges tend to last a really long time. When you do as little printing as I do, they last forever. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/642 "2025-05-07T19:50:04Z")
See? We have another IT guy with knowledge about printers here, which just goes to show the board is infected with them, no matter the subject. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/643 "2025-05-07T19:56:03Z")
I still think the topic will do better in IMHO. 🤷‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/644 "2025-05-07T19:57:20Z")
I concur, I was just joking around a bit. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/645 "2025-05-07T20:04:50Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > I am wondering if I should start another thread about printers, ink versus toner, and other related issues. I’d be interested in that. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/646 "2025-05-07T20:06:52Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Laser printers work just fine. Can I afford a color laser printer? I used to have a B&W laser printer years ago. When I do print something I’m going to want it to be in color. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/647 "2025-05-07T20:19:03Z")
Colour laser printers can be fairly reasonably priced these days, but they are only really useful for printing colour documents and charts and such; photos printed on a colour laser printer generally suck a bit, so if your colour printing requirements include photos, a laser probably isn’t a great choice. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/648 "2025-05-07T20:38:36Z")
I have started a printer thread. > [@I Need Printer Advice!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-printer-advice/1018037): > > My deluxe laser printer was great. One day the toner started to ignite in the printer. It was very frightening. I might be able to repair the problem myself. A techy friend might be able to repair it, A friend who worked in a Cannon printer support center is certain that opening the case will result in getting toner everywhere. As the printer weighs at least 40 pounds, carrying it up and down the stairs and working on it outside is not really an option. So, I need a new printer. I will need a c… ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/649 "2025-05-07T20:43:44Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Can I afford a color laser printer? I don’t know. Can you? 😉 I have no real experience with colour laser printers, but as to price and what they’re good for, I’m inclined to concur with @Mangetout just above. Back in the day, I had both a black and white laser printer for documents and a colour inkjet for photographs. The inkjet was a PITA for the reasons I mentioned. But when it was working, it could produce tolerable photographs from JPEG files on ordinary paper, and quite good ones on expensive glossy stock that were nearly the quality of conventional colour prints. As to price, they cost a lot more than conventional black-toner laser printers, but that cost has come down so much over the years that even colour laser printers are pretty cheap – a quick look at Amazon shows them in the range of $250 to about $400 for home models; they can also get a lot more expensive but those are mainly high-volume business models. But the question is, if you’re using them for photographs, will they produce satisfactory quality? Almost certainly not on ordinary paper; ink jets worked particularly well on photo-style glossy paper. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/650 "2025-05-07T21:02:35Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > “they” can force you to use biometrics to unlock a device but not a PIN or password. So if your phone, for instance, is powered down and the only way to unlock it on boot is by PIN, you could in theory legally refuse to do so. I once heard it explained, at least in the context of an arrest, as “the difference between what you have and what you know”. IIRC, I read this when the BLM protests were going on. Using a PIN instead of biometrics was one of the things I’d see popping up on facebook as advice for people planning to attend them. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/651 "2025-05-07T21:09:13Z")
Sincere and enthusiastic thanks to the mods for recognizing the problem and dealing with it by issuing two separate thread bans. Fingers crossed she reins herself in, whether or not she actually understands and accepts that it’s her own dumb ass that’s the problem. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/652 "2025-05-07T21:18:12Z")
> I will be buying another printer because I like to print weird things, and print them in color. I’m chuckling because my mother reminds me of Beck sometimes, and she just LOVES to print things. She doesn’t trust anything on her computer “because it can always just go away”. So any receipt, any bank statement, and any cute little animal she wants to show someone, she has to print it out. She says about half her friends have email, but she doesn’t know their addresses. The biggest problem is, she lives in a retirement home … that has dozens of printers, in offices and apartments. _See the trouble? Especially when she refuses to pause for two seconds and check the destination of her multi-page right-wing glurge? “Oops, it didn’t print, I’ll do it again!”_ ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/653 "2025-05-07T21:21:27Z")
^^ And that’s why I hate printers and the dumb users using them. And trust me, you don’t have to live in a retirement home and be a little demented, young(ish) office people behave the same way. I’ve seen shelves full of physical folders with printed out emails much too often. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/654 "2025-05-07T21:23:25Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Sincere and enthusiastic thanks to the mods for recognizing the problem and dealing with it by issuing two separate thread bans. Fingers crossed she reins herself in, whether or not she actually understands and accepts that it’s her own dumb ass that’s the problem. I saw the ATMB one. Where is the other one? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/655 "2025-05-07T21:27:03Z")
> [@digs](#): > > See the trouble? Especially when she refuses to pause for two seconds and check the destination of her multi-page right-wing glurge? “Oops, it didn’t print, I’ll do it again!” Semi-related…Over the years, I’ve told coworkers, many times, that if they print something and it doesn’t print, don’t keep hitting print over and over, just let me know and I’ll fix it (instead of the printer eventually spitting out 15 copies of it). Reminds me of [this clip](https://youtu.be/Bn4T5-zxk9Y?t=115) from The Good Place. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/656 "2025-05-07T21:29:00Z")
I missed that one. That’s _three_ then. The other two are MPSIMS \> Socialised health care, Australia style and IMHO \> Locking down your device when crossing borders. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/657 "2025-05-07T23:10:12Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > I have started a printer thread. Thank God! I was worried this was turning into **Mild Printing of Beck** ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/658 "2025-05-07T23:28:59Z")
Three thread bans in what, a couple of days? That’s fairly impressive, for someone who never does anything wrong, or says anything mean to anyone, no matter how mean they are to her. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/659 "2025-05-08T01:06:51Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Regarding printer ownership, it’s “nearly half of Americans,” though I don’t know what that exactly means. Does that mean adults? Households? Everyone? Looking around my first-floor home office, I count five, including the printer/scanners. In the upstairs office there are four more, two of which are printer/scanners. But then, I also have two laptops, four desktops (including the offline Windows xP and Win7), three Fire tablets, one Kindle Paperwhite, and one smartphone. I can’t afford to have a computer, printer or scanner go down without backup. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/660 "2025-05-08T02:27:39Z")
Indeed. When the Jerks get to decide what being a Jerk is, this place becomes less like a community, and more like the shitscape we are all living in. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691.md?page=34)