# Mild Pitting of Beck

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 12, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691 "2024-10-12T05:25:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/781 "2025-09-03T19:54:39Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Puzzlegal is doing exactly as I suggested, not doing it for fear of feeling like crap on vacation. Seems like I was right. No?

Uh… Not really. I had considered that issue already. I didn’t need you to bring it up. And i can probably get my doctor to vaccinate me at home.

But I’m traveling with my son. He doesn’t have enough of a relationship with any doctor to walk in and get vaccinated, and he doesn’t feel as sick as i do after getting the covid jab. He’s currently planning on taking TokyoBayer’s advice on how to get it done when he’s in Japan. He was really grateful for the information.

Many thanks to @TokyoBayer for that extremely helpful answer, by the way.

Beck, stop digging…

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/782 "2025-09-03T20:25:07Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Look, I read the board incessantly. I often see threads at the beginning. I often post if I think I can be helpful.

Did you think you knew how authentic Chicago-style Italian beef sandwiches are made?

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/783 "2025-09-03T21:03:38Z")

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It’s one thing to be so ignorant to confuse Luxembourg with another small state in Europe. But please, all you people, it’s _Liechtenstein_. And for your information Becks, both are immensely wealthy, fancy and sophisticated places (ok, there’ll be some hicks in Liechtenstein, just like in Arkansas, but not very much in Luxembourg, which is in the heart of central Europe, geographically and politically).

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/784 "2025-09-03T21:27:01Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Look, I read the board incessantly.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Why are you trolling and harassing someone on a small message board? Are you that bored with _that perfect life?_

May I have a new Irony Meter please?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/785 "2025-09-03T21:50:52Z")

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My recollection of visiting Luxembourg is that it made the retailers at Heathrow airport look quite reasonably priced!

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/786 "2025-09-03T21:56:24Z")

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Liechtenstein is even more expensive, even more than their neighbor Switzerland. No big mystery about it, Liechtenstein and Luxembourg are both tax havens.

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**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/787 "2025-09-03T22:26:52Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> But looking at this board as a whole, I don’t think she would be in my Top-10 of annoying aholes here.

I don’t think she’s in my top 5 aholes here. But I would say she’s one of the posters here who is most ideologically opposed to the board. Completely uninterested in fighting ignorance (especially her own, which she positively revels in), unwilling to learn, unable to take even the mildest of criticisms, constitutionally incapable of self-reflection. In many ways, the antithesis of what this board should ideally be.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/788 "2025-09-03T22:27:37Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> ok, there’ll be some hicks in Liechtenstein

Liechtenstein has an absolutely fascinating obscure history as a purchased title for a staggeringly rich baronial family from Austria who wanted a seat in the Imperial Diet, but subsequently lost everything except what was once their least important backwater possesion. The country is literally named after the family, which is named after the [family castle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liechtenstein_Castle_(Maria_Enzersdorf)) near Vienna.

But my favorite factoid about it is a great monument to hicktitude. It was literally the last country in Europe to grant women’s suffrage in fucking 1984 when I was a teenager. I still remember goggling at that news when it happened.

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**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/789 "2025-09-03T22:37:02Z")

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I didn’t think too much about women’s suffrage in Luxembourg because I figured meh, microstates are kind of weird (I know it’s arguable if it’s a microstate or not). The one that blew my mind was Switzerland, in **1971** , with one canton holding out until **1991**.

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**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/790 "2025-09-03T22:38:54Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> in Liechtenstein

> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Liechtenstein has an absolutely fascinating obscure history

> [@keeganst94](#):
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> Luxembourg

Really?

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**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/791 "2025-09-03T22:40:55Z")

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God damnit… obviously I meant Liechtenstein. I was thinking about posting about how you can travel from Luxembourg to Luxembourg to Luxembourg (Luxembourg, region of Belgium; Luxembourg, country; Luxembourg, city) and still had that on my mind.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/792 "2025-09-03T23:01:28Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> > [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> > But looking at this board as a whole, I don’t think she would be in my Top-10 of annoying aholes here.
> 
> I would agree with this, there are far more irritating people who speak outside their expertise.

Eh, there are a few posters who are just plain irritating, period. I get why some people might find **Beck** annoying, but for the most part I don’t, possibly because I haven’t read most of the threads where she apparently gives unwanted advice. And I actually enjoy many of the “bad, bad, bad” threads and tales of country life that remind me a little of Shirley Jackson’s semi-autobiographical _Life Among the Savages_. Beck doesn’t have an easy life and probably deserves to be cut more slack than most are willing to give her. And yes, the poor old possum stories were sweet. So were the tales of training Bailiss to use his “speech buttons”. Also the comical encounters with Arkansas state troopers that first introduced the “bad, bad, bad” motif.

But then there’s this:

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> What bothers me about you is your bragging consistently about your oh so perfect life in, where is it?, Lichtenstein or somewhere nobody gives a shit about.

It’s Luxembourg. I know you’re angry here, but this kind of comment is small-minded and provincial. I’ve not seen @Cervaise “brag” about anything, but maybe I missed it. He left the US and is glad he did.

> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> It’s one thing to be so ignorant to confuse Luxembourg with another small state in Europe. But please, all you people, it’s _Liechtenstein_. And for your information Becks, both are immensely wealthy, fancy and sophisticated places (ok, there’ll be some hicks in Liechtenstein, just like in Arkansas, but not very much in Luxembourg, which is in the heart of central Europe, geographically and politically).

Indeed. From Wikipedia:

> Luxembourg is a developed country with an advanced economy and one of the world’s highest PPP-adjusted GDPs per capita, per the IMF and World Bank. It also ranks highly in terms of life expectancy, human development, and human rights. The historic city of Luxembourg was declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 1994 due to the exceptional preservation of its vast fortifications and historic quarters. Luxembourg is a founding member of the European Union, OECD, the United Nations, NATO, and the Benelux.

Why, that sounds exactly like Bumfuck, Arkansas! 😁

To be fair, the current disastrous political climate in the US and the idiot voters responsible for it inflames this kind of hostility.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/793 "2025-09-03T23:03:37Z")

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> [@keeganst94](#):
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> > [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> > But looking at this board as a whole, I don’t think she would be in my Top-10 of annoying aholes here.
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> I don’t think she’s in my top 5 aholes here. But I would say she’s one of the posters here who is most ideologically opposed to the board. Completely uninterested in fighting ignorance (especially her own, which she positively revels in), unwilling to learn, unable to take even the mildest of criticisms, constitutionally incapable of self-reflection. In many ways, the antithesis of what this board should ideally be.

I don’t know… **curlcoat** and **ZPG Zealot** may take the cake for all of that.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/794 "2025-09-03T23:13:29Z")

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> [@keeganst94](#):
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> But I would say she’s one of the posters here who is most ideologically opposed to the board. Completely uninterested in fighting ignorance (especially her own, which she positively revels in), unwilling to learn, unable to take even the mildest of criticisms, constitutionally incapable of self-reflection.

That’s just not true, at least not as a broad generalization. When **Beck** first joined, she posted a stricture against anyone correcting her grammar – she was a southern girl, and was gonna talk the way she talks. Being something of a pedant, I pounced on that; I don’t remember what I said, but she backed off and never made that comment again. There have been other instances where she’s been rightfully criticized and has backed off. But I guess not always, because some of the issues are recurring. But she loves this place and considers most of us her virtual friends and I do think the odd bit of kindness towards her wouldn’t hurt.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/795 "2025-09-03T23:20:28Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Beck doesn’t have an easy life and probably deserves to be cut more slack than most are willing to give her.

I can’t speak for others, but I _have_ been cutting her a lot of slack because I’m aware of her extreme physical problems. I’m suspect it is the same way with most others, too. Even in this thread title the OP made sure to make clear it is a “mild” pitting. I think overall she is mostly treated with kid gloves here and if not physically frail would be subject to much more open vitriol.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/796 "2025-09-03T23:25:28Z")

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:Begins to format my CV\*:  
\*conditions vitae

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/797 "2025-09-04T05:44:27Z")

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> [@keeganst94](#):
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> constitutionally incapable of self-reflection

There are occasional flashes of self-awareness, but they produce zero change. “Why can’t I have this?” to me means “Why do I have to grow and improve, why can’t I just be my (insert adjectives here) self?”

Nobody likes to be told that they’re annoying, perhaps especially when they know it’s true. Many people are not interested in personal growth. What’s unusual, to me, is to see those characteristics portrayed so openly and unashamedly.

p.s. I think it’s time to alter the title of this thread.

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/798 "2025-09-04T09:58:41Z")

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Beck is certainly not the only poster here with serious life challenges. Everyone lets professionalism and civility slip now and then, it’s human nature and we do cut slack for that. It’s the many repeats of the same schtick that gets old.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/799 "2025-09-04T11:17:19Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> It’s Luxembourg. I know you’re angry here, but this kind of comment is small-minded and provincial. I’ve not seen @Cervaise “brag” about anything, but maybe I missed it. He left the US and is glad he did.

Yeah. I’m reminded of things I’ve had to tell my elder relatives. Socializing is a two-way street, if it’s just you sharing your own stream of consciousness, and you don’t respect that other people want to say things, or may be taking about things that you don’t really have anything to add to, it’s not received very positively.

You can’t just bust into every conversation in like a steamroller and make it all about your own perspective. Especially if you’re arguing with someone by rattling off stuff you just Googled 2 minutes ago as if that makes you an expert. We all have Google, nobody’s sitting here waiting for you to look things up.

And if there’s pushback, you should take it on board and consider the feedback. If you just get nasty and say there’s nothing wrong with what you’re doing and everyone else sucks, then you’re just protecting your ego at the cost of others finding you both unpleasant and stubborn, which just gets you more pushback and isolation. If you have limited social outlets, that’s not a good reputation to pick up.

Nobody ever reaches an age where they don’t have to consider the perspectives and feelings of others, or to learn something from others. Failure to do so is a good way to end up alone. If you act like you already know it all, and there’s nothing for you to learn, there’s no point in me wasting my time talking to you.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/800 "2025-09-04T11:46:24Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> The other threads I give my opinion, an anecdote or I look it up for someone that may be away from home and cannot look it up.

Here’s a tip, anyone who can accessing the board can also access google at the same time. So no one reading or posting in a thread is “away from home and cannot look it up.”

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