# Mild Pitting of Beck **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 12, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691 "2024-10-12T05:25:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1061 "2026-06-24T04:02:30Z")
They could start knitting from the middle. Seam in the middle. No buggy seam to tick me off. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1062 "2026-06-24T09:47:55Z")
Off topic, of course, but I was lightly amused to find this semi-practical knitted sock from ancient Egypt, online. (Reddit) It does feature the seam at the toe, but the idea of a detachable heel, to make for easier repairs seems wise. Seems wise, until you realise that a pair of socks is now 4 pieces, and if just one piece goes to wherever socks go in their happy, foot-loose afterlife, the remain quarter will languish, unused in the sock drawer forever. https://embed.reddit.com/r/ArtefactPorn/comments/1u7tf5w/this_12thcentury_ce_sock_from_egypt_was_knitted/?embed=true&ref_source=embed&ref=share ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1063 "2026-06-24T11:39:06Z")
Morning missive: I was awakened by my neck hurting again..just got two shots yesterday for it. You know I sneezed while laying reclined and it did something in there. Doc said coughing and sneezing does this a bunch. Like a true Doper, I ask him for “cite”. Guess his answer? Google it 🤨 ! ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1064 "2026-06-24T21:00:25Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > sneezed while laying reclined Grammar alert! You were not “laying reclined”, you were “lying reclined”. “Lay” is a verb that takes a direct object, as in “laying floor tile”. There is no direct object in the various tenses of the verb “lie”. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1065 "2026-06-24T21:25:10Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > You were not “laying reclined”, you were “lying reclined”. How do you know she _wasn’t_ laying reclined? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1066 "2026-06-24T21:30:23Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > How do you know she _wasn’t_ laying reclined? Because she didn’t say what she was laying. Floor tile? Carpet? A welcome mat? An egg? Hard to do any of those things when reclined. Although it might plausibly be possible for an athletic hen to lay an egg in such a position. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1067 "2026-06-24T21:40:59Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Grammar alert! > > You were not “laying reclined”, you were “lying reclined”. > > “Lay” is a verb that takes a direct object, as in “laying floor tile”. There is no direct object in the various tenses of the verb “lie”. I’ve given up complaining about the lie/lay confusion many people have, and I’m not even a native speaker. Even a nobel prize winner for literature got that wrong: 😉 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LhzEsb2tNbI/maxresdefault.jpg "Bob Dylan - Lay, Lady, Lay (Official Audio)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhzEsb2tNbI) ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1068 "2026-06-24T21:46:14Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Because she didn’t say what she was laying. As I learned back in high school freshman English, there’s a big difference between lying on the beach and laying on the beach. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1069 "2026-06-24T21:50:35Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Even a nobel prize winner for literature got that wrong Further nitpick. He didn’t “get it wrong”, it’s just that song lyrics are usually written in the common vernacular. I’m sure that the Rolling Stones would have been able to afford a linguistic consultant when they wrote “I Can’t Get No Satisfaction”, but they didn’t want one. > [@needscoffee](#): > > As I learned back in high school freshman English, there’s a big difference between lying on the beach and laying on the beach. “Laying on the beach” is grammatically correct when there is a direct object to the verb, such as the person that you’re laying. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1070 "2026-06-24T21:52:13Z")
Well, @wolfpup I do know that. But it’s sounded kinda frou-frou. I should of said “I sneezed while reclining” maybe? The underlying thing is, I wasn’t ready for the sneeze so I whip lashed my fool self. (How’s that for a sentence?) Thx wolfpup. I’ll take more care, in future. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1071 "2026-06-24T21:52:47Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > “Laying on the beach” is grammatically correct when there is a direct object to the verb, such as the person that you’re laying. Yes, that has been my point for 3 posts now. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1072 "2026-06-24T21:55:32Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I should of said “I sneezed while reclining” maybe? Yes, “sneezed while reclining” was all that was necessary. But “I should of said …”! OMG! The horror! My dear sweet **Beck** , did you really write that? 😲 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1073 "2026-06-24T21:57:01Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > …it’s just that song lyrics are usually written in the common vernacular. So are message board posts. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1074 "2026-06-24T21:57:31Z")
I was lying on the beach, thinking about laying down with the woman lying under the umbrella, so when she got up I gently lay her down on the blanket and then I lay with her. Did that really happen, or am I lying? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1075 "2026-06-24T21:59:03Z")
Now what’s wrong with that, pray tell, **wolf?** ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1076 "2026-06-24T22:00:31Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > …it’s just that song lyrics are usually written in the common vernacular. > > So are message board posts. So are message board critiques that are obviously not intended to be taken seriously! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1077 "2026-06-24T22:00:54Z")
For your information: “of” is a preposition, while “have” is the correct (auxiliary) verb there. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1078 "2026-06-24T22:30:18Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Now what’s wrong with that, pray tell, **wolf?** > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > For your information: “of” is a preposition, while “have” is the correct (auxiliary) verb there. @Beckdawrek, heed the guidance of our resident _Deutscher Hund_! Technically the verb phrase “should have” followed by a past participle is a past modal verb. You should of used it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1079 "2026-06-24T22:33:26Z")
😄 good. For once I’m okay-ish. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1080 "2026-06-24T23:52:20Z")
It’s not uncommon at all for a Pit thread to result in people just having a friendly conversation unrelated to original topic. And it’s not uncommon for that to happen as a way to stop people from trolling. No, the parameters aren’t exactly the same. But I did say it’s the same level, not the same thing. She’s not doing any of the things I would pit someone for: bigotry, attacking people, being a hypocrite, etc. As for “ruining a discussion”: she came in after the attack on chela had mostly faded out, and started a new conversation. Others were happy to engage with her. The only other conversation going on was about how the Pit works, and that topic reached a natural conclusion, Now, sure, some people are mad that she’s having a pleasant conversation in a thread that’s supposed to be pitting her. Her posts haven’t stopped them, either. She just is (for the most part) ignoring them, and that annoys some people enough to get mad. Me? If she is trolling, then I’m not going to take the bait. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691.md?page=55)