# Mild Pitting of Beck
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 12, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691 "2024-10-12T05:25:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 65
### Author:  [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1281 "2026-06-29T00:03:35Z")
Now the white knights can put their swords down and we can maybe hear more interesting stories about no-nonsense Ivy. ( a poison ivy thread?)
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1282 "2026-06-29T12:27:46Z")
I’ve made this complaint elsewhere but “white knight” is an asinine complaint - like using “woke” as an insult. Standing up to bullying, when bullying is indeed going on, rather than being a bystander, is not something to mock. _Misguided_ or even _performative_ is the issue. In this case completely misguided IMHO.
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1283 "2026-06-29T13:33:30Z")
FYI …
I double-checked before adopting its use in this discussion:
> In forum parlance, it means rushing to the aid of another poster for whatever reason. An accusation typically reserved for when a poster is being hammered by another poster(s) and the accused leaps in to defend them, usually without thinking things through as to why the person is being attacked.
[**SOURCE**](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=white+knighting)
Seems like it’s being used just exactly correctly in this context.
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1284 "2026-06-29T13:48:47Z")
Used correctly sure. I’m not pedantically saying it is being used incorrectly. Just a shitty term.
Is using “Karen” or for that matter any ethic or racial slur _correctly_ make their use just fine and dandy?
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### Author:  [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1285 "2026-06-29T13:59:28Z")
It means that your defense of the indefensible is being correctly called out using a term that has no racial connotation except the one you just made up as a distraction tactic. Keep it up dude, Chela will be along to defend you soon, I’m sure.
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1286 "2026-06-29T14:04:36Z")
I guess that triggered one more thought – already covered, but I’d like it to be well-trodden ground:
> [@chela](#):
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> Because you allow your feelings of being trolled to reach a fever pitch way out of proportion to the words the mute lady speaks.
> [@wolfpup](#):
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> She has significant health issues, but more importantly, significant verbal communication issues. This board is an important outlet for her, and while none of those things justifies overlooking serious faults, it distresses me to see her unfairly dumped on, as I believe happened in this case.
This is definitely a principle that I think needs unpacking.
If we’re going to say that serious health problems should affect how we enforce the civility rules, what’s the limiting principle? Is a snide remark okay? Repeated personal insults? Harassment? Where do we draw the line, and why?
I wouldn’t expect _my_ life-limiting illness to buy me extra permission to be uncivil on this forum. If I cross the line, moderate me the same way you’d moderate anyone else. Why would I _ask for anything other than_ this? Why would I _advocate for anything other than_ this? Why should that be the standard?
Our membership skews older, right? How many current Dopers have serious medical challenges? How many have already perished? If health status is going to influence moderation or social expectations, how would that work in practice? Would members disclose diagnoses? Would different conditions warrant different degrees of latitude?
I think you’re conflating empathy with diminished expectations.
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1287 "2026-06-29T14:14:09Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> How many current Dopers have serious medical challenges?
Me! Like someone I’m a diabetic with chronic kidney disease, Myasthenia and cardiomyopathy, and I have great difficulties talking to people in person.
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1288 "2026-06-29T14:15:59Z")
Hard to put it any better than that.
In this context, the phrase fits like a Savile Row suit.
Maybe a WHOLE thread about the inclusion of the word “white” in that term is a worthwhile project for another day.
But not one that will garner _my_ attention 😉
ETA:
> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Me!
Without having the specifics, I actually knew that you did. You cool with me white knighting this one?
😉
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1289 "2026-06-29T14:16:42Z")
My mom had myasthenia. Be careful with that. It was listed on her death certificate (along with COVID, which was the proximate cause of her death) for a good reason.
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1290 "2026-06-29T14:21:58Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Maybe a WHOLE thread about the inclusion of the word “white” in that term
> A white knight is a mythological figure and literary stock character. They are portrayed alongside a black knight as diametric opposites. A white knight usually represents a heroic warrior fighting against evil, with the role in medieval literature being represented by a knight-errant.
> [White knight - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_knight)
> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> My mom had myasthenia. Be careful with that. It was listed on her death certificate (along with COVID, which was the proximate cause of her death) for a good reason.
It’s already tried to kill me 7 times, twice that included going into respiratory arrest, fortunately I was already in, or on my way to, the ICU.
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### Author:  [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1291 "2026-06-29T14:23:23Z")
Here I come to save the day…🎶
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1292 "2026-06-29T14:34:56Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> How many current Dopers have serious medical challenges? How many have already perished? If health status is going to influence moderation or social expectations, how would that work in practice? Would members disclose diagnoses? Would different conditions warrant different degrees of latitude?
I, for one, am willing to cut more slack with posts by members that have already perished.
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1293 "2026-06-29T14:35:52Z")
… a prince of a man.
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1294 "2026-06-29T14:41:50Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> that has no racial connotation except the one you just made up as a distraction tactic
Do you know how to read English? No racial connotation implied you stupid idiot: “white” of “white knight” is not a racial term. The simple to comprehend point is that using a term _correctly_ per its definition has nothing to do with whether or not it is a stupid or even harmful concept. Someone could call me a slur that starts with “k” to reference my religious/ethnic heritage and it meaning exactly what they wanted it to mean is irrelevant.
Defending someone who you perceive is being unfairly or excessively attacked is not derision worthy; being a passive bystander when believe that is going on is OTOH contemptible. Internet culture being bully friendly as it is there is no convenient term to insult those bystanders who look the other way, but there is one for easy use by anyone by anyone who objects to people being pricks.
Again Beck was not being bullied and chela is a dumbfuck. The comment is exclusively about how more often than not someone who throws out the “white knight” shit is just crying that someone is calling out their being an ass. The comparison with “woke” I think is most apt: the people who use the term “woke” as a bad thing are really complaining that someone is calling out their -phobia, anti-, or -ism of whatever sort.
If you have kids did you raise them to ignore what they thought was bullying for fear of becoming a target themselves? I did not.
So take one of chela’s okra fritters and stuff it up where it can relieve the constipation that has backed up into your brain.
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### Author:  [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1295 "2026-06-29T14:48:02Z")
> [@DSeid](#):
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> So take one of chela’s okra fritters and stuff it up where it can relieve the constipation that has backed up into your brain.
I may not fully agree with your post, but kudos for that flowery insult. Pit-worthy.
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### Author:  [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1296 "2026-06-29T14:55:43Z")
Stay outta my kitchen,keep your grubby hands off the okra and go fuck a cactus
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1297 "2026-06-29T14:56:48Z")
That really sucks. I’m glad you were okay. The only time my mom stopped breathing, she was already in the hospital, and they were able to attach a respirator fairly quickly. (But she was in the ICU, on a respirator, for months. They had trouble diagnosing it.)
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### Author:  [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1298 "2026-06-29T15:03:03Z")
> [@DSeid](#):
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> Do you know how to read English?
Do you know how to write? Read? Think?
Go back and read your own post. You wanted to bring some kind of bias into “white knight”.
Otherwise, your second sentence is just random.
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1299 "2026-06-29T15:08:58Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Do you know how to write?
I see now that I did fail a basic goal that I have when communicating - writing or otherwise: know your audience and speak at their level. I had mistakenly assumed everyone here other than chela has neurons that function better than a dysfunctional family in their ability to talk to each other. My bad! Today I learned!
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2026, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1300 "2026-06-29T15:11:14Z")
I do think:
- That was pretty good 😉 , and
- It might be another worthwhile topic of discussion. Though I can understand why you might compare it to “Karen,” IMHO, that comparison doesn’t hold up under much scrutiny
But as a bleeding heart, granola/tofu-eating, Birkenstock wearing, tree-hugging liberal DeadHead, I’m pretty much always up for linguistic harm reduction where appropriate.
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