# Mild Pitting of Beck
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 12, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691 "2024-10-12T05:25:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 71
### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2026, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1401 "2026-07-05T19:29:23Z")
> _We’ll call it a draw._
–The Black Knight
Please get in touch with my envoys, Steve and Jared. They’re authorized to negotiate on my behalf.
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### Author:  [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2026, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1402 "2026-07-05T20:25:58Z")
You’re thinking of Duck Nixon.
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### Author:  [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1403 "2026-07-06T00:09:36Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> TOXIC has certain nasty connotation when aimed at women.
Serious question: It does? Where did you learn that? What reasoning is used to support this claim?
I’m aware of the concept of “toxic personalities.” I am lucky not to have any toxic people significantly involved in my personal life right now, so I don’t generally find myself in need of the term.
But I’ve known toxic people in the past, both male and female, and would not hesitate to label them as such. Unless, of course, I’m missing something and calling a woman “toxic” is bigoted in some way. If so, I need to be enlightened.
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1404 "2026-07-06T00:24:41Z")
Ever heard the term “toxic bitch”?
Especially capitalized.
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### Author:  [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1405 "2026-07-06T00:42:17Z")
Seriously? Good grief Beck.
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1406 "2026-07-06T00:59:56Z")
I’ve never used the term. It’s never been said to me.
Read my post. I said it’s often used in a ugly connotation about women. A terrible insult.
Or something like that.
I never accused anyone of any thing.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1407 "2026-07-06T01:01:24Z")
The word “toxic” definitely has a modern cultural link to one sex. But it isn’t yours.
> **[Toxic masculinity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_masculinity)**
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> Toxic masculinity is a concept used in academic and media discussions to refer to those aspects of hegemonic masculinity that are socially destructive, such as misogyny, homophobia, and violent domination. These traits are considered "toxic" due in part to their promotion of violence, including sexual assault and domestic violence. Socialization of boys sometimes also normalizes violence, such as in the saying "boys will be boys" about bullying and aggression. Self-reliance and emotional repre...
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1408 "2026-07-06T01:08:43Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Ever heard the term “toxic bitch”?
In all honesty I haven’t.
As Darren said, it usually is paired with “masculinity”. And unfortunately, toxic masculinity is not hard to find.
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1409 "2026-07-06T01:19:07Z")
“NASTY” is the usual one in front of that word in my experience… just saying …
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1410 "2026-07-06T01:25:19Z")
Never said it was _my_ definition of anything.
I said , it’s a usage I do not like. At most.
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### Author:  [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1411 "2026-07-06T01:28:14Z")
You know we can scroll up and see that that’s a bald-faced lie, right?
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1412 "2026-07-06T01:39:57Z")
I think that should be bold-faced.
All caps also tends to cause things to be bold.
You know, just so you know, and all.
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### Author:  [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1413 "2026-07-06T01:42:48Z")
It’s amazing to see you be confidently wrong about the connotation of toxic, lie about it, and then have you be equally confidently wrong about this. Just so you know, bald, bold, and bare faced are all accepted uses, _and bald is preferred._
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1414 "2026-07-06T01:48:41Z")
Lemme test this,
BOLD
Hmm, not really that bold.
**BOLD**
Yeah, formatting is whatcha need.
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1415 "2026-07-06T01:58:04Z")
I preferred to be **BOLD,** instead. 😄
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### Author:  [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1416 "2026-07-06T02:08:26Z")
Which explains why this thread exists.
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### Author:  [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1417 "2026-07-06T02:09:24Z")
The “b-word” has fallen out of favor in recognition of the fact that (as applied to humans) it is a misogynistic term, so in that sense, it doesn’t really matter what you put in front of it. “[any adjective] bitch” is not very nice. But saying the word “toxic” is sexist because it is occasionally paired with “bitch” is like saying “stupid” is a sexist word because people say “stupid bitch.”
There is nothing special about toxicity as paired with women - as @Darren_Garrison was the first to point out, it’s actually the other way around. “Toxic masculinity” is definitely a concept currently in play, and it’s not exactly a compliment to the whole of the male gender.
If I Google the term “toxic bitch” it tells me there is a 2022 song by that name and a cocktail (!) by that name.
If IGoogle the term “toxic boss” I get a gazillion hits, mostly articles giving advice on how to deal with a toxic boss.
Does that mean we should drop the term “toxic” because it’s biased against bosses? I think not.
Anyway, “stupid boss” must be doubly off the table. A good thing I had very few of those in my career.
ETA: I just compared the number of hits on permutations of the above words. Here’s how many there were:
220,000 hits on toxic bitch
431,000 on toxic boss
2,160,000 on stupid bitch
121,000 on stupid boss
3,660,000 on toxic masculinity
Make of that what you will!
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1418 "2026-07-06T02:29:06Z")
And just to bring it back to a (seemingly necessary) moment of clarity, relevance, and sanity … _none of this_ has _anything whatsoever_ to do with my comment that included the term, “NON-TOXIC.”
Wow. Just … Wow.
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### Author:  [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1419 "2026-07-06T02:39:23Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> _none of this_ has _anything whatsoever_ to do with my comment that included the term, “NON-TOXIC.”
Very true. I shouldn’t even bother to discuss the matter. I was lured in (more accurately, I kicked the door open like an impulsive SWAT team member) because I like semantics.
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2026, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mild-pitting-of-beck/1008691/1420 "2026-07-06T02:48:04Z")
I simply answered Carols question. She had never heard it used in a nasty gendered term.
I never said David said that about anyone. Ever.
I’m not sure why you’re pushing so hard against this. It’s not on you.
Or I don’t believe it is.
I apologize if it seemed like that to you.
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