# Militant Christian Countries **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 9, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/militant-christian-countries/160170 "2003-03-09T23:42:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@mok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mok)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/militant-christian-countries/160170/21 "2003-03-11T17:56:24Z")
**javaman** , another thing to consider. You claim that the US and/or its public policy is **“shaped by Puritan values”** and is a **“_de facto_ low church Protestant theocracy”**. (color mine) I have found for a number of years that my family and I have the right to practice Catholicism with total freedom. This extends even to the right to remove my children from the government school system and send them to a fully government-accredited religious school, to come and go as I please on public roadways to attend worship, to purchase non-Protestant Bibles, to deduct contributions to Papist charities from my government income tax, **even to receive wine on the Sabbath**. Last I checked, Catholicism was neither Puritan nor Protestant. If the US is a Puritan/Protestant theocracy, they are doing an extremely bad job of it. -mok ---
**Author:** ![Beruang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@Beruang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beruang)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/militant-christian-countries/160170/22 "2003-03-11T18:30:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Krokodil \* > \*\*John, if you’re in the US, ask your Muslim neighbors/co-workers if they’d back you up on that statement, esp. if they’ve been to an airportor traffic stop recently. \*\* My girlfriend is Muslim. Attends Qu’ran readings, volunteers for charities (distributing books, not money, so no raids so far 😉 ). Lives in a medium-sized town in central Michigan. Flies frequently – is in DC as we speak. Reports no trouble whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![Rob\_V](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Rob\_V](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rob_V)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/militant-christian-countries/160170/23 "2003-03-11T19:15:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ringo \* > [So I must agree with **Monty** , I don’t think you can reasonably describe the U.S. as a theocracy. \*\* Hmph. Not yet anyway. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/militant-christian-countries/160170/24 "2003-03-11T22:18:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mok \* > **If the US is a Puritan/Protestant theocracy, they are doing an extremely bad job of it.** On the other hand, if that’s as bad as it gets, then Christians can be proud of finally fostering open, progressive societies. As I understand it, the Muslim world could make a similar claim, for a time. Long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/militant-christian-countries/160170/25 "2003-03-11T22:33:12Z")
Mok, The “de facto low church Protestant theocracy” line was mine, not Javaman’s. The specific cites I intended to provide predate 1995 (The state trooper “witnessing” his suspects in the course of an arrest, the school principal in a Mormon town suspending some kid for wearing a “Satanic” t-shirt of Danny DeVito as the Penguin, etc) and are therefore unavailable on the web, so I’m looking for fresher examples. I’ll keep you posted. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/militant-christian-countries/160170/26 "2003-03-11T22:45:43Z")
So, basically, Krokodil, you’re tossing out a sequence of events and completely ignoring the consquences to those who perpetrated those events. What’s truly amusing to me is that you now state that what you based those comments on can’t be cited. Care to withdraw your (invalid) assertion or do you prefer to violate the First Rule of Holes? ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/militant-christian-countries/160170/27 "2003-03-12T00:45:47Z")
**Markxxx** , on behalf of the SDMB I apologize that our membership is to unwilling to follow our rules to give an answer to your question. Please re-ask it next week, when I expect that several members who posted in this thread will be ex-members. This thread is closed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/militant-christian-countries/160170.md?page=1)