# Military Dopers: which civilians (if any) must you salute?

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**Created:** [November 18, 2005, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-dopers-which-civilians-if-any-must-you-salute/331603 "2005-11-18T04:00:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-dopers-which-civilians-if-any-must-you-salute/331603/21 "2005-11-23T03:18:05Z")

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[Related Snopes link regarding Marine salutes to Bill Clinton.](http://www.snopes.com/military/salute.htm)

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From Army Regulation 600-25: Salutes, Honore, and Visits of Courtesy:

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> 1–5. Hand salutes and salutes with arms  
> a. For instructions on executing the hand salute, see FM 3–21.5, paragraph 4–4.  
> b. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute.  
> Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of  
> the Armed Forces of the United States (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard), the commissioned corps  
> of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the commissioned corps of the Public Health Service  
> entitled to the salute.  
> c. The junior person shall salute first. Accompanying the rendering of the hand salute with an appropriate greeting  
> such as, “Good Morning, Sir” or “Good Morning, Ma’am” is encouraged. Personnel will not salute indoors except  
> when reporting to a superior officer.  
> d. The practice of saluting officers in official vehicles (recognized individually by rank or identifying vehicle plates  
> and/or flags) is considered an appropriate courtesy and will be observed. Salutes are not required to be rendered by or  
> to personnel who are driving or riding in privately owned vehicles, except by gate guards who will render salutes to  
> recognized officers in all vehicles unless duties are of such a nature as to make the salute impractical. When military  
> personnel are acting as drivers of a moving vehicle, they should not initiate a salute.  
> e. It is customary to salute officers of friendly foreign nations when recognized as such. The commanding general,  
> U.S. European Command; the commanding general, U.S. Army Europe and Seventh U.S. Army; commanding general,  
> U.S. Forces Korea and Eighth U.S. Army; commanding general, U.S. Army, Pacific; and commanding general, U.S.  
> Army, Southern Command, are delegated the authority to establish policies for recognition courtesies prevailing locally  
> for foreign officials. Should inactivation eliminate any of these commands, the authority will pass down to the next  
> level of command. This authority will not be delegated further.  
> f. The President of the United States, as the commander in chief, will be saluted by Army personnel in uniform.  
> g. Civilian personnel, to include civilian guards, are not required to render the hand salute to military personnel or  
> other civilian personnel.

No mention of Congressmen, Senators or anything like that.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-dopers-which-civilians-if-any-must-you-salute/331603/23 "2005-11-23T10:37:16Z")

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Bear in mind that all this is largely academic. Soldiers don’t often meet salute-worthy civilians on a day-to-day basis, and when they do, the meeting is usually preceded by some intense drilling by a sergeant-major type who will tell you exactly _who, how_ and _when_ you salute, and who will have serious words with you afterwards if you deviate from his instructions by even a fraction of an arm-swing.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-dopers-which-civilians-if-any-must-you-salute/331603/24 "2005-11-23T13:05:35Z")

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> [@Bear\_Nenno](#):
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> From Army Regulation 600-25: Salutes, Honore, and Visits of Courtesy:  
> No mention of Congressmen, Senators or anything like that.

That’s how I learned it, no VP only POTUS.

Jim

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