# Military funerals, more partisan lies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-funerals-more-partisan-lies/212662>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 11, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-funerals-more-partisan-lies/212662 "2003-11-11T19:59:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![musicguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@musicguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/musicguy)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-funerals-more-partisan-lies/212662/41 "2003-11-13T20:22:06Z")

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**World Eater** ,

I responded to his email. If he writes back, I’ll make the suggestion. 🙂

Which, by the way, I do give him some credit for responding, even though his information wasn’t any more factual than his first remarks. I was still surprised, considering the tone of my letter to him.

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**Author:** ![El\_Gui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@El\_Gui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Gui)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-funerals-more-partisan-lies/212662/42 "2003-11-13T20:39:05Z")

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And let’s not forget the words of our sincere and noble [leader](http://quotations.about.com/cs/georgewbush/a/bls_bushisms.htm):

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> “There’s only one person who hugs the mothers and the widows, the wives and the kids upon the death of their loved one. Others hug but having committed the troops, I’ve got an additional responsibility to hug and that’s me and I know what it’s like”

So George, how many mothers and widows have you hugged today?

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-funerals-more-partisan-lies/212662/43 "2003-11-13T22:00:17Z")

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Conservatives and veterans constantly remark on how Bush is somehow a man of the people, or is in touch with the pulse of the military. Too bad he’s not in touch with the flatline of the military - I might actually have an ounce of respect for him.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-funerals-more-partisan-lies/212662/44 "2003-11-13T22:37:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by musicguy \*  
> Second, I just spend quite a while on Google and cannot find one instance, sans Veteran’s Day, of Bush attending any memorial service whatsoever for anyone that has died in the Iraq war. Does anyone else recall this happening? Carl Limbacher suggests that he has been to many of these. You would think that there would be a link to at least one.

I’d try [here](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/), at [whitehouse.gov/news](http://whitehouse.gov/news). Especially try the month-by-month links on the left side of the page. If Bush has been attending memorial services, it _should_ show up there; it seems to list his each and every appearance somewhere.  
Oh yeah: a funeral is the service that takes place immediately preceding the burial of the body. In the normal course of things, one funeral is all you get. Memorial services can take place at any place, at any time, and in any quantity.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-funerals-more-partisan-lies/212662/45 "2003-11-13T23:25:52Z")

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Thank you for that very amusing link, **El Gui**.

I think Orwell if safe for a while yet.

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**Author:** ![musicguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@musicguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/musicguy)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-funerals-more-partisan-lies/212662/46 "2003-11-14T00:10:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \*  
> \*\*Oh yeah: a funeral is the service that takes place immediately preceding the burial of the body. In the normal course of things, one funeral is all you get. Memorial services can take place at any place, at any time, and in any quantity. \*\*

First of all, thanks for the link. I didn’t think to check there.:smack: I will later tonight though.

Concerning the above quote, I agree with your definition. What about the example that I presented of Clinton, in your opinion? It took place 6 days after the people died, the coffins were there, and what the President did was described as a eulogy. Now that sounds like a funeral to me. Yet, Carl Limbacher considers that a memorial because of what the website says. Or maybe, something can be a funeral _and_ a memorial service, which is what I see this as. Hence, Clinton attended a funeral.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-funerals-more-partisan-lies/212662/47 "2003-11-14T00:44:39Z")

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for me, the only time one would have multiple coffins lined up and call it a funeral is if the people were related. So, for example, there may have been some service for the victims of the Cole, at say Arlington, but funerals IMHO are **personal** , for the individual victim.

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