# Millen Gone!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 24, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003 "2008-09-24T15:57:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/1 "2008-09-24T15:57:55Z")
The Lions and Matt Millen have parted ways. Well, now, maybe something that is a closer approximation to football will find its way to Detroit. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/2 "2008-09-24T16:02:45Z")
Wha? Is the nightmare over? We can take the paper bags off our heads? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/3 "2008-09-24T16:05:35Z")
Free at last, free at last! Thank Ford, alrighty! We are free at last! [http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/SPORTS01/80924031](http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/SPORTS01/80924031) ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/4 "2008-09-24T16:06:44Z")
Who would’ve thought that Millen would be gone before Kiffen got fired? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/5 "2008-09-24T16:08:00Z")
From the [ESPN article](http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3606294)… > [@ESPN](#): > > The Lions are 31-84 under Millen. But until this point, the Lions have resisted widespread demands from fans seeking Millen’s ouster. Let’s see, 31 plus 84 divided by sixteen games a year makes… **SEVEN YEARS?!?!?** He was there for SEVEN YEARS? That’s fucking criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/6 "2008-09-24T16:08:09Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Who would’ve thought that Millen would be gone before Kiffen got fired? I don’t know if I even want to distinguish this with a response. Shit. Too late. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/7 "2008-09-24T16:11:58Z")
I do not believe it. Gotta make the coaching staff nervous. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/8 "2008-09-24T16:13:33Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > Wha? Is the nightmare over? We can take the paper bags off our heads? Keep the paper bag on. We’re still 0-3 with a 70% chance of not winning a game all season. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/9 "2008-09-24T16:23:00Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Keep the paper bag on. We’re still 0-3 with a 70% chance of not winning a game all season. Um. Yes we can? ---
**Author:** ![ASAKMOTSD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@ASAKMOTSD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASAKMOTSD)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/10 "2008-09-24T16:26:45Z")
What is that you say? Detroit has a football team? ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/11 "2008-09-24T17:26:43Z")
Does this mean we can expect the incriminating pictures of Clay Ford and that goat that Millen has been blackmailing him with to be released? ---
**Author:** ![jjohns828](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jjohns828](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjohns828)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/12 "2008-09-24T17:40:31Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Does this mean we can expect the incriminating pictures of Clay Ford and that goat that Millen has been blackmailing him with to be released? No, this obvious means that Ford has somehow managed to get his hands on all the evidence and can finally fire Millen without worrying about it coming out. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/13 "2008-09-24T18:10:32Z")
Way to draw a line in the sand, Ford family. After six years where your team averaged a record of 5-11, it really did seem like things were just about to turn around, didn’t it? But when the Lions started off poorly this year, well, I guess they lost the faith. Why Millen was ever hired is beyond me. Even if there’s a reasonable explanation for his hiring, he should’ve been fired about five years ago. It’s really baffling that they held onto him for so long despite not just repeated failure, but repetition of the same failures over and over. I’m really happy for Lions fans. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/14 "2008-09-24T18:48:48Z")
I take that back. Millen was there for seven full seasons, not six, so you can add a year to most of those totals. And that means the team’s record during his tenure was closer to 4-12 every year than 5-11. ---
**Author:** ![jjohns828](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jjohns828](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjohns828)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/15 "2008-09-24T19:05:21Z")
I’m a Dolphins fan because watching Dan Marino is what got me into watching pro football, but Barry Sanders was a second reason that my interest grew so I’ve always had a soft spot for the Detriot Lions. I’m really hoping that now that they’ve gotten rid of Millen they can get back to respectability. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/16 "2008-09-24T19:06:59Z")
Although a competent Lions team would not be a good thing for the Bears, I have to be happy that you guys’ long nightmare may be ending. Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/17 "2008-09-24T19:37:45Z")
After a few hours of mulling on this news, I see this move being equal to Spiro Agnew leaving office. Or maybe Donald Rumsfeld. Look who’s still really in charge folks. I mean, we’ve only won one playoff game since Old Man Ford bought the team in 1964. Here’s the record: Pre-William Ford years: 179-63 (.740) with 5 championships. A respectable team. William Ford years: 281-377 (.427) with 0 championships. This is the product of a wannabe businessman who grew up in the shadow of his successful older brother, and doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/18 "2008-09-24T19:47:57Z")
I’m very happy for all the Lions fans out there. It’s about time. I wouldn’t mind seeing a few years of a strong Lions team competing for a championship. It would get old after that though, so that’s all you get. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/19 "2008-09-24T19:54:51Z")
Is ANY Lion fan unhappy with this? (Apart from wanting to fire people higher up?) ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003/20 "2008-09-24T21:49:20Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Is ANY Lion fan unhappy with this? (Apart from wanting to fire people higher up?) Can’t think of why they would be. I’m slightly thrilled about it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/millen-gone/465003.md?page=2)