# Miller Lies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [April 18, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206 "2012-04-18T21:04:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/21 "2012-04-18T22:33:20Z")

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> [@OldnCrinkly](#):
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> I believe the meaning was completely changed. I do not think it was an accident.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/22 "2012-04-18T22:36:03Z")

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My apologies for the mangled quote, **OldnCrinkly**. Originally, I’d intended to post something like this:

> [@Miller](#):
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> > [@OldnCrinkly](#):
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> > Miller, I did say reasonable request. That being said, I am not sure that discussing sex with someone else’s 12 yo (without their knowledge) is reasonable. That’s pretty young.
> 
> I didn’t say anything about discussing sex with children. “It’s okay for boys to like other boys,” is not a discussion about sex. “You’re not going to burn in hell because you want to hold hands with Tommy,” is not a discussion about sex. “I’m gay, and I have friends and family and a partner who all love me and accept me,” is not a discussion about sex.
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> > [@](#):
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> > It would indeed be an edge case, and a tough one, I’m sure.
> 
> It is an edge case, but I don’t think it’s tough at all.

I decided it was dumb to split up such a short post like that, so I edited it so my first paragraph appeared after your post, followed by a rewritten second paragraph. When I cut the text out, I accidentally included your sentence in the cut, and left my sentence in its place. The sentences were similar enough that I didn’t catch the mistake on preview.

I’ve edited my post in the original thread to correct my error. Again, my apologies for making it appear that you had said something the opposite of what you’d intended.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/23 "2012-04-18T22:37:52Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> My bad. I misread the changed quote. My apologies. Also reading what Giraffe wrote is how I saw Millers response which probably helped in my misreading of the changed quote.
> 
> Again sorry.

Don’t feel bad, it gave people a chance to do some important nitpicking.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/24 "2012-04-18T22:43:12Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I’ve edited my post in the original thread to correct my error. Again, my apologies for making it appear that you had said something the opposite of what you’d intended.

How dare you! Now the Usual Gang of Pedants and Whiners won’t have anything to bitch about (fat chance!) And to not only _correct_ your error, but _apologize_?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/25 "2012-04-18T22:59:58Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> My apologies for the mangled quote, **OldnCrinkly**. Originally, I’d intended to post something like this:
> 
> I decided it was dumb to split up such a short post like that, so I edited it so my first paragraph appeared after your post, followed by a rewritten second paragraph. When I cut the text out, I accidentally included your sentence in the cut, and left my sentence in its place. The sentences were similar enough that I didn’t catch the mistake on preview.
> 
> I’ve edited my post in the original thread to correct my error. Again, my apologies for making it appear that you had said something the opposite of what you’d intended.

Well done.

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**Author:** ![OldnCrinkly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e7dd6/32.png) [@OldnCrinkly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldnCrinkly)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/26 "2012-04-18T23:17:21Z")

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Thank you, Miller. I appreciate your straightening this out.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/27 "2012-04-18T23:19:00Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> That said, he should be fired and then banned.

That’s too good for him. I propose we punish him by making him moderate The Pit.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/28 "2012-04-19T00:16:38Z")

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Now what about this accusation of straightness?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/29 "2012-04-21T17:30:26Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> My apologies for the mangled quote, **OldnCrinkly**. Originally, I’d intended to post something like this:
> 
> I decided it was dumb to split up such a short post like that, so I edited it so my first paragraph appeared after your post, followed by a rewritten second paragraph. When I cut the text out, I accidentally included your sentence in the cut, and left my sentence in its place. The sentences were similar enough that I didn’t catch the mistake on preview.
> 
> I’ve edited my post in the original thread to correct my error. Again, my apologies for making it appear that you had said something the opposite of what you’d intended.

Not bad. For a straight guy. 🙂

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/30 "2012-04-21T17:44:14Z")

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Yeah, it doesn’t taste great and it’s not less filling!

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/31 "2012-04-21T18:02:47Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> My apologies for the mangled quote, **OldnCrinkly**. Originally, I’d intended to post something like this:
> 
> I decided it was dumb to split up such a short post like that, so I edited it so my first paragraph appeared after your post, followed by a rewritten second paragraph. When I cut the text out, I accidentally included your sentence in the cut, and left my sentence in its place. The sentences were similar enough that I didn’t catch the mistake on preview.
> 
> I’ve edited my post in the original thread to correct my error. Again, my apologies for making it appear that you had said something the opposite of what you’d intended.

Oh, so now you go an erase all evidence to the crime. How convenient. Next thing you know, poof!, this thread will mysteriously disappear. Don’t think we’re not on to you, Miller.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/32 "2012-04-23T03:04:06Z")

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Vinyl Turnip’s \<spit take\> is the hardest I’ve laughed at anything on the internet in a long, long time. You’ve outdone yourself this time (and you know I’m already one of your biggest fans).

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/33 "2012-04-23T03:20:05Z")

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I for one remain outraged. I haven’t read the thread in question, nor the links provided, and in fact skimmed this thread with a minimum of attention to detail. But I _feel_ that should be outraged, and that’s good enough for me. :dubious: :mad:

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**Author:** ![Library\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cab0a1/32.png) [@Library\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Library_Boy)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/34 "2012-04-23T05:26:03Z")

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UMBRAGE!

Straight umbrage, I tell you.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/35 "2012-04-23T11:39:36Z")

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> [@Library\_Boy](#):
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> UMBRAGE!
> 
> Straight umbrage, I tell you.

Whose turn is it to take umbrage for a walk?

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/36 "2012-04-23T11:55:14Z")

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Lemme guess… **Miller** ’s from Miami and recently got fired by NBC for his editing “mistakes”?

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/37 "2012-04-23T11:55:49Z")

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/38 "2012-04-23T16:08:08Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Oh, so now you go an erase all evidence to the crime. How convenient. Next thing you know, poof!, this thread will mysteriously disappear. Don’t think we’re not on to you, Miller.

WTF… a mod can edit anything he wants to in order to make himself look better? Do you need to get Super-Mod approval?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/39 "2012-04-23T16:12:45Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> WTF… a mod can edit anything he wants to in order to make himself look better? Do you need to get Super-Mod approval?

I’m pretty sure **magellan01** was kidding, but **Miller** did the right thing in correcting his error in that thread. We have rules against altering text inside quote boxes, and it wouldn’t have been right for a moderator to do make that kind of alteration (even by accident) and leave it alone. There were posts about the misquote in the thread and **Miller** acknowledged his error and apologized for it in the thread.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miller-lies/619206/40 "2012-04-23T18:16:41Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> WTF… a mod can edit anything he wants to in order to make himself look better?

Yes. And there’s nothing you can do about it.

MUA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

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