# Milum is a babbling fountain of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 29, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293 "2003-10-29T19:44:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/21 "2003-10-29T22:52:42Z")
\*\* Smeg\*\*, you see the boards as half-empty of idjits. I see them half-full. My, but that other pit thread on the AL Knucklehead is funny. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/22 "2003-10-29T23:05:04Z")
Ya know, all we’re doing here is providing this guy with wanking material. If you ignore his threads, and don’t respond to his postings in others, he’ll eventually get bored and go away. The guy is clearly a wack job. His thoughts are incoherent, unlinked, unsupported, and designed to elicit irrational response. Don’t buy into it. ---
**Author:** ![Daisy\_Cutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@Daisy\_Cutter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daisy_Cutter)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/23 "2003-10-29T23:22:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sailor \* > \*\*I can say one good thing about **Milum** : **Daisy Cutter** is worse. > > If Milum, Daisy Cutter, Aldebaran and Reeder got their own room and never returned here this board would gain _a lot_. \*\* Ah, I see sailor is off on one of his d e l u s i o n a l_RANTS_ again. He just has a _grudge_ against me, because I called him a hypocritical retard in some other thread. A characterization which is fairly accurate, imho. As usual, certain people are here to debate various topics, others are here merely to take swipes at others. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/24 "2003-10-29T23:32:44Z")
_"We left Viet Nam on the brink of complete victory…_"\* I guess those people hanging onto the helicopter skids in Saigon as the Viet Cong marched into town were doing it for sport. Sort of like bungee jumping. \*might be worth a _plaque_ at the base of Mt. Dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/25 "2003-10-30T00:08:00Z")
> [@](#): > > As usual, certain people are here to debate various topics, others are here merely to take swipes at others. And which of those two are YOU here for, sir, as it is certainly not clear from your posts so far. ---
**Author:** ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/26 "2003-10-30T00:14:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 'possum stalker \* > **more full of shit than a Christmas goose** Note to self: if invited to Christmas Dinner at **'possum stalker** ’s house, _don’t go_. ---
**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/27 "2003-10-30T00:21:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jackmannii \* > \*_"We left Viet Nam on the brink of complete victory…"_ > > I guess those people hanging onto the helicopter skids in Saigon as the Viet Cong marched into town were doing it for sport. Sort of like bungee jumping. > \*\* Maybe they were the fellas who were about to topple the Soviet Empire if hadn’t given 'em a ride. **Dragon** : It’s much better than it sounds. ---
**Author:** ![Daisy\_Cutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@Daisy\_Cutter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daisy_Cutter)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/28 "2003-10-30T00:41:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by El\_Kabong \* > \*\*And which of those two are YOU here for, sir, as it is certainly not clear from your posts so far. \*\* May I suggest some Visine™. You know, clear things up, get the redness out of your eyes. This will allow you to gain a more accurate understanding. I debate plenty in GD. More often than not my factual posts get these sort of replies: _“You are ignorant.” “You are a bigot.” “Listen Honey.” :smack: “Hey, anybody with a name like that. … . … . . blah blah” :dubious:_ So, to answer your question. Yeah, I do engage in debates. Try the search function sometime. You might find it useful. That and the visine should do wonders to correct your incorrect asumptions. :o ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/29 "2003-10-30T00:41:40Z")
I don’t pay very much attention to him and so aren’t tuned into his style. Having said that, I find it difficult to think he’s delusional enough to believe a lot of what I’ve seen him write, including the “brink of complete victory” stuff. It doesn’t completely gel with other stuff of his. Fwiw, I get a similar vibe to the one I used to get with december when he’d post something provocative just to boost a thread coming to a natural end. Of course later (it became clearer) december had become kind of addicted to the attention and/or notoriety. Not at all sure where this guy is, but one or two of the indicators also seem to be present here . . . I guess time will tell. Early days. For now, though, I think he posts often, but not always, to provoke and probably for attention - also, like december, he’s cute enough to know where the line is and will be careful not to cross it. IMHO. Be prepared for a long-ish stay . . . imho. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/30 "2003-10-30T01:17:03Z")
> [@](#): > > I debate plenty in GD. More often than not my factual posts get these sort of replies: > > “You are ignorant.” > “You are a bigot.” Well, if that happens it may be because some people happen to think that certain things you say are ignorant and bigoted. Just making a suggestion here. Tell you what, I’ll keep an eye peeled for future contributions by you in GD, and if I see something that looks ignorant and bigoted, I’ll be sure to mention it. Just, you know, to help clear things up. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/31 "2003-10-30T01:52:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Prevent? The US SUPPORTED the Khmer Rouge as a supposed stopgap against the Vietnamese Communists. > [Cite: “A Problem from Hell” : America and the Age of Genocide, by Samantha Power]. \*\* Of course, that ignores the fact that it was the North Vietnamese that helped the Khmer Rouge get their revolution started against Lon Nol (the American supported general who had just overthrown the monarchy) by arming and training them. The North Vietnamese invaded in 1979 because the Khmer Rouge refused to be Vietnam’s puppet and started arguing over borders and other things - much like the Soviet/China split (OK, it was more like the KR was run by paranoid lunatics who were afraid of being overthrown by the Americans, the Russians, the Vietnamese - pretty much anyone in the area). It had nothing to do with any humanitarian split, especially since they had been supporting the Rouge for quit a few years before that. Basically, they got some blowback. They supported the Khmer Rouge in the beginning as a proxy against the US in Cambodia. Once the US backed regime was out, they lost control of the Khmer Rouge. When the KR started border raids against them, the Vietnamese took them out. Quite similar to some current events right now in other parts of the world. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/32 "2003-10-30T07:30:43Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Daisy Cutter \* > Ah, I see sailor is off on one of his d e l u s i o n a l_RANTS\* again. I like sailor, and I think anyone who uses colors and/or more than one font size in one word should automatically lose any argument. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/33 "2003-10-30T11:01:26Z")
In the interest of fighting ignorance and all that: **Derleth** , you are aware that the quote: _“It became necessary to destroy the town to save it”_ most likely was not spoken by an American officer, but invented by a journalist (Peter Arnett). And, though American soldiers inside the town (Ben Tre) being overrun by the Vietcong may have radioed in air-strikes on their own positions, there’s no evidence whatsoever that Ben Tre was deliberately destroyed (not to speak destroyed to save it). Likewise the later sister quote: _“the only way Hué could be saved was by destroying it.”_ was quite clearly invented by journalists to spice up news stories (or sex-up as has recently become popular). (In fact it was the North Vietnamese regulars and Vietcong who, as a matter of policy during the Tet offensive, destroyed and slaughtered Hué. Numbers are hard to get but up to 6,000 people were rounded up and shot or clubbed to death, and thrown in mass graves. Doctors, teaches and priests were specially targeted) As for **Milum’s** statements. A little over the top, but it’s probably not historical incorrect to say the vast majority of deaths in Southeast Asia occurred after the American withdrawal. We’ll never know, but neither is it unrealistic to say that a continued American involvement could have saved a great deal of these lives. (The two years (1975-1977) following the final American withdrawal saw about twice as many violent deaths in SE Asia as the whole period of American involvement (1965-1974) – from communistic Cambodian killing fields, Vietnamese purges and concentration camps, forced farm collectivisms , re-education camps, failed escape attempts etc. as well as up to two million refugees.) - Rune ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/34 "2003-10-30T11:59:39Z")
> [@](#): > > May I suggest some Visine™. You know, clear things up, get the redness out of your eyes. Holy crap! SACS\* is transmittable over the internet! \*Severe accute crayon syndrome ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/35 "2003-10-30T12:29:37Z")
I’ve said it [before](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=218328), and I’ll say it again: Milum is a pointless, boring bullshitter. Don’t pay attention, and maybe he’ll go away. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/36 "2003-10-30T12:41:00Z")
I thought fountains bubbled, not babbled. Milum is is a bubbling fountain of shit. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/37 "2003-10-30T12:47:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CBEscapee \* > \*\*I thought fountains bubbled, not babbled. Milum is is a bubbling fountain of shit. \*\* Brooks babble though, according to Tennyson. Might **Milum** in fact be a brook of shit? > [@](#): > > I come from haunts of coot and hern, > I make a sudden sally, > And sparkle out among the fern, > To bicker down a valley. Sounds about right. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/38 "2003-10-30T12:47:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Smeghead \* > \*\*Can’t we just focus on the positive around here? Like the fact that **december** is gone? \*\* I’ll save my celebration for the moment when cowards stop bashing people who can’t be here to defend themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/39 "2003-10-30T13:11:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blowero \* > \*\*I like sailor, and I think anyone who uses colors and/or more than one font size in one word should automatically lose any argument. > 😉 \*\* Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293/40 "2003-10-30T13:24:10Z")
I have always found it so. fucking. difficult. to not say something about the fact that he’s from Alabama. (And with this, for the first time, I hypocritically violate my rule against participating in the lame and cowardly practice of saying something by pointing out that you’re not saying it. It won’t happen again.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-is-a-babbling-fountain-of-shit/210293.md?page=3)