# Milum - what part of "no personal insults" don't you understand, you stupid fuck?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 15, 2004, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255 "2004-05-15T07:22:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/21 "2004-05-15T22:29:54Z")

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You really know how to hurt a guy, **SPOOFE**.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/22 "2004-05-15T22:47:10Z")

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Sorry, man. It just slipped out without thinking. I don’t know what came over me, you offensive midget-munging piece of slapped-up turkey turd.

Forgive?

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**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/23 "2004-05-15T23:11:35Z")

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I was going to say that he was like an **Elucidator** clone but without the wit, erudition, intelligence and mastery of the language. But I may be wrong. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/24 "2004-05-15T23:33:56Z")

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My favorite part of that thread was this:

> [@](#):
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> You pooh-poohing dopers are exposing your youth and ignorance and rudeness to wiser men who look down upon your silly smug comments and smile.

Youngsters don’t have a monopoly on ignorance or rudeness. Men don’t have a monopoly on looking down on silly and smug comments. Wisdom isn’t limited to grownups. Smiling at “silly smug comments” reflects smugness itself. Various forms of “pooh-pooh” sound strangely juvenile in Great Debates.

Milum, you would be more effective in debating if you attack _arguments_ instead of people.

Sometimes you remind me of a younger me – only with differing opinions. Now I am older and wider. 😉

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/25 "2004-05-15T23:42:18Z")

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I handled the **Milum** situation not long ago, in a little milder manner, [in this post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4688714&postcount=100)

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/26 "2004-05-16T07:31:26Z")

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> [@county](#):
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> You are sounding a bit overly sensitive, to me.

Your post lacks specificity.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/27 "2004-05-16T12:58:08Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> Now I am older and _wider_. 😉

Freudian slip? 😉

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/28 "2004-05-16T13:30:17Z")

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> [@county](#):
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> You are sounding a bit overly sensitive, to me.

God forbid that we should be “overly sensitive”! Me, I look up to you as an example of how to kindly and gently make a point without offending anyone!

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/29 "2004-05-16T18:55:24Z")

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Except he **has** insulted individual Dopers on several occasions. Follow his [posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=208200)- there is one giving a straightforward rec for whiskey and almost all the others are insulting. What particularly pisses me off is that he has goaded me into returning fire at least three times and **I** was the one the mods told to chill.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/30 "2004-05-17T06:06:21Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Originally Posted by **Libertarian**  
> > In fairness, he did say our brains were “beyond the zebra”.
> 
> Well, hell! That’s the nicest thing to be said about me this month!

The quote attributed to **Libertarian** above, was actually originated by **Liberal**.

Carry on.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/31 "2004-05-17T06:08:57Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> The quote attributed to **Libertarian** above, was actually originated by **Liberal**.
> 
> Carry on.

Same dude. Name change.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/32 "2004-05-17T16:20:40Z")

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What the fuck is he picking on me for! I wasn’t even in that thread!

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/33 "2004-05-17T23:19:16Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Except he **has** insulted individual Dopers on several occasions.

Me being one of them, within the last couple-few weeks. He got warned and everything. Damned if I can find the thread, though, even after repeatedly flogging the hamsters.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/34 "2004-05-18T06:42:42Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Damned if I can find the thread, though, even after repeatedly flogging the hamsters.

My mom told me I shouldn’t flog the hamster.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/35 "2004-05-18T19:47:17Z")

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Is the OP and thread title intended to be ironic? :dubious:

“No personal insults” seems pretty clear to me. Though, honestly, I prefer the days when we could call each other putrid fistulae without fear of being banned.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2004, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/36 "2004-05-19T15:52:55Z")

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> [@Gaudere](#):
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> I thought he was using the “wee brains” thing sarcastically, not really trying to insult people. You know, saying, “oh you dopers do not understand the power of miracles! you fools, why do you not just accept that when a person says it is a miracle, that is all the proof you could need! Who needs such foolishness like “evidence”?” Otherwise I would have warned him.

Oh, no, not at all. He meant exactly what he said. What you are describing would have been clever, wryly sarcastic, and subtle.

I love **Milum**. I really do. He first came to my attention when he lectured me on federal standing when I was a federal law clerk, and has since then corrected me and the other SDMB lawyers on many points of the law. He has also corrected linguists on linguistics and **Qagdop the Mercotan** on medicine. I’m waiting for the day when he finally lectures **The Bad Astronomer** on astronomy, and maybe a hooker on fellatio.

Needless to say, I’m a big fan of **Milum** and have become something of a connoisseur of his posts. This one is an example of a **Milumism** I have termed **The Pat on the Head** : a refutation of the argument by dismissing the poster as young and foolish, lacking his age and experience. Here are more examples:

> [@Milum](#):
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> No David, you shouln’t use irony until you know how to use it.
> 
> Step one: Think about what has been said the best you can and then offer your considered rebuttals.
> 
> Step two: Realize that you are young and haven’t spent decades thinking about the subject.
> 
> Step three: Dump your rebuttal.

> [@Milum](#):
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> Oh I do so much love the spokesmen for the Left, such sophomoric articulation, such youthful directness of thought.
> 
> Now tell me little boys, do you get your jollies telling grown folk to “fuck off”?
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> (Maybe it was permissive parents; maybe it was TV. God only knows?)

> [@Milum](#):
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> Oh did you now Dwarf? What I think is that the " Simpsons" guide your intellect.  
> I think that you are a nice guy, young, and given to cliches that  
> substitute for any substantive retort that has substance. I do like you, but only in a realization that later you will develope into a worthwhile citizen of Earth.  
> Meanwhile use your ears more than your mouth and be cool. 🙂

There are many, many other **Milumisms** , like **The Imaginary Conversation** , **The Bizarre Analogy** , **The Lofty Assertion** , **The Thread Closure** , and **The Post Hominem** , but I have not yet completed my anthology. That said, please, please, please don’t ever ban him. He is, in many ways, the very best poster on the boards.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2004, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/milum-what-part-of-no-personal-insults-dont-you-understand-you-stupid-fuck/245255/37 "2004-05-19T17:33:44Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> Is the OP and thread title intended to be ironic? :dubious:

Tongue-in-cheek, yes - Ironic, no. Insults are allowed in the BBQ Pit, but not in Great Debates.

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