# Mind Control

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mind-control/567102>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 10, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mind-control/567102 "2011-01-10T15:53:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mind-control/567102/21 "2011-01-10T19:55:35Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> I can’t watch that video from work. Care to give a synopsis?

Here’s a basic rundown:

> **[Loughner, cont.](https://xpostfactoid.blogspot.com/2011/01/loughner-cont.html)**
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> A blog focused on the Affordable Care Act and health care policy

> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Newspeak.
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> Kanicbird doubleplusgood duckspeaker.

Antecrazy Xtianbabble ftw!!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mind-control/567102/22 "2011-01-10T22:09:54Z")

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> [@fuzzypickles](#):
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> Conclusion: If the federal government actually uses “mind control” as part of their playbook, they probably don’t have to resort to those controls very often. They don’t need to – most run-of-the-mill citizens _want_ their minds to be controlled. Most individuals wish to believe in a fluffy, puppy-dog world where real terror does not exist.

😕 But, if there is any “federal mind control,” **that** is not its **content,** quite the reverse.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mind-control/567102/23 "2011-01-10T23:17:19Z")

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[Quote=fuzzypickles]  
Simple question (inspired by last weekend’s events): Does the government use mind control techniques to control the populace?

Resolved: Yes, absolutely.  
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Well, if you know all about it, it doesn’t seem to be working very well, then.

Seriously, though, what government doesn’t use influence, spin and propaganda to attempt to control the messages it is trying to get across? I don’t really know how you define ‘control’ of the population, nor what you consider to be ‘mind control’, so right now it seems a bit banal of an observation.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to point to something in last week’s events (I presume you are referring to the shooting in Arizona) you feel is a particular example of successful mind control?

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> Conclusion: If the federal government actually uses “mind control” as part of their playbook, they probably don’t have to resort to those controls very often. They don’t need to – most run-of-the-mill citizens want their minds to be controlled. Most individuals wish to believe in a fluffy, puppy-dog world where real terror does not exist.

Wait a minute. Since Q3 2001, the federal government has pretty much done nothing but whip up hysteria about terrorist bogeymen…

Oh, I see. They _have_ gotten to you, haven’t they?

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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mind-control/567102/24 "2011-01-11T00:28:27Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Well, if you know all about it, it doesn’t seem to be working very well, then.

That’s because my brain uses “magical thinking” and therefore cannot be controlled. In fact, at any given moment, I become the Master of Puppets. 🆒  
fnord  
It’s kinda like Rob & Amber from Survivor and The Amazing Race. Robert thinks he’s the leader – smarmy & cocksure, with the ability to mooch off everyone he meets – despite _losing_ Survivor, Rob managed to butter up & eventually marry the grand prize winner! However…when you pay close attention, it’s obvious that Amber’s the one in control – she allows Rob to think he’s playing her, but in reality, \*she \*is the one playing _him_.  
fnord

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Seriously, though, what government doesn’t use influence, spin and propaganda to attempt to control the messages it is trying to get across?

Good point. Although, in America, that job’s mostly left to the media, and the corporations who own them.  
fnord

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Wait a minute. Since Q3 2001, the federal government has pretty much done nothing but whip up hysteria about terrorist bogeymen…

That lasted only until Q1 2009, when my Current Puppet went into play. He’s an amazing figurehead, 100% obedient and loyal as a labrador retriever (heh), and he even told the DEA to stop raiding marijuana clinics before I had to manipulate him into doing so. As for the rest of my Grand Master Plan – well, that’d be saying too much, wouldn’t it? 😃  
fnord

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mind-control/567102/25 "2011-01-11T00:34:23Z")

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😕

The topic of this thread has gone from “woo” to “WTF.”

Rob and Amber? Huh? That’s an answer to El Kabong’s question?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mind-control/567102/26 "2011-01-11T04:34:22Z")

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OK, if the OP is just dicking around here, I can find better uses for my time. As an artist of my acquaintance once said, “I am for clarity, not confusion”.

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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mind-control/567102/27 "2011-01-11T05:15:21Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Rob and Amber? Huh? That’s an answer to El Kabong’s question?

My friend suggested I write that part. He really should stay off the Internet. :rolleyes:

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> OK, if the OP is just dicking around here, I can find better uses for my time. As an artist of my acquaintance once said, “I am for clarity, not confusion”.

After re-reading my OP, I can’t figure out what I my original point was either. All I know is that after watching Jared Lee’s crazy video about the government controlling his private thoughts, my mind kinda took the concept and ran with it.

I blame the expired eggnog.

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