# Minneapolis is Burning...?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 28, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589 "2020-05-28T07:45:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/181 "2020-05-29T18:17:00Z")

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He’s been charged with 3rd degree murder and with manslaughter. More charges may be filed later. The other three police are still under investigation.

County Attorney Freeman seemed pissed he didn’t get an attaboy for (according to him) filing charges so fast.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/182 "2020-05-29T18:20:55Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> I just saw this video. The Autozone appears to universally be where it all started. The video shows a white male, dressed on in black, wearing the exact same type of face obscuring mask used by “State Patrol” police when they arrested the CNN Crew. Everyone else was peacefully protesting until this man walked up, broke all of the Autozone windows with a bat, and then tried to walk away from the scene. He was filmed and followed, but when the person following got too close, he was grabbed by the arm and body slammed to the ground. The person filming repeatedly asks, “Are you a Cop? Are you a Cop?” before being flipped.
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-O4rnUToU&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-O4rnUToU&feature=youtu.be)

That is weird. Why was he carrying an umbrella?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/183 "2020-05-29T18:23:56Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> Un-fucking believable. But absolutely believable given what this place has turned into.
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> While my business hasn’t been looted, I know people’s businesses that have.
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> I doubt that makes any difference though, I’m just a troll, sock, asshole that needs to fuck off so you can have your far left echo chamber unsullied and unchallenged, because you’re a fucking coward and a weasel.

Ha! If you think _this_ place is a “far left echo chamber” then you have _no idea_ what the far or even middling left is like.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/184 "2020-05-29T18:26:10Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The police in the US have a long and storied history of acting as agents provocateur so they can have an excuse to use violence and to demonize and delegitimize the standing of opponents.

I’m careful about rushing to judgment based on a viral video. That guy could have been anyone from an anarchist, to a college dropout-turned- shit disturber, to a member of the Republican party trying to start a Reichstag Fire, to a white nationalist trying to start a race war. Could have been someone just bored and wanting some attention. No way to know at this point.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/185 "2020-05-29T18:26:14Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> I just saw this video. The Autozone appears to universally be where it all started. The video shows a white male, dressed on in black, wearing the exact same type of face obscuring mask used by “State Patrol” police when they arrested the CNN Crew.

It’s a similar mask but not the same. The state trooper masks has one black filter cartridge, the man who broke the window has two pink filter cartridges.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/186 "2020-05-29T18:29:18Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> That is weird. Why was he carrying an umbrella?

To give himself additional shield from public view? This guy may or may not be political - could be just a pot-smoking dropout from the burbs.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/187 "2020-05-29T18:32:43Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> That is weird. Why was he carrying an umbrella?

It’s a tactic used by the Hong Kong protesters. It helps to deter facial recognition. Though with the mask, I’m not sure facial recognition would work, anyway.

Just a couple of points: The Attorney General of Minnesota is Keith Ellison, former Congressman. He is also a Muslim. I don’t think he’s going to be sweeping anything under the rug.

Another point is that Target is a major figure in Minnesota. Not just as an employer, but it’s a political figure, as well. They have, in the past, given contributions to right wing politicians (including one who was running against Mark Dayton, scion of the founding family of Target), but they have backed off on that funding in recent years.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/188 "2020-05-29T18:40:04Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Ha! If you think _this_ place is a “far left echo chamber” then you have _no idea_ what the far or even middling left is like.

For many shitheads, the term “far left” means “Anyone who does not call Dear Leader Trump the greatest, or scream SOCIALISM with spittle flying out of their mouths”

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/189 "2020-05-29T18:44:34Z")

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More relentless than a speeding bullet. More old school than a locomotive. Look, stuck in traffic… 😉

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/190 "2020-05-29T18:50:27Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> Un-fucking believable. But absolutely believable given what this place has turned into.
> 
> While my business hasn’t been looted, I know people’s businesses that have.
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> I doubt that makes any difference though, I’m just a troll, sock, asshole that needs to fuck off so you can have your far left echo chamber unsullied and unchallenged, because you’re a fucking coward and a weasel.

I’m glad you and your business is safe and hope that remains so.

Cite a single post that condones looting.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/191 "2020-05-29T18:51:57Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Another point is that Target is a major figure in Minnesota. Not just as an employer, but it’s a political figure, as well. They have, in the past, given contributions to right wing politicians (including one who was running against Mark Dayton, scion of the founding family of Target), but they have backed off on that funding in recent years.

Also[that Target specifically](https://www.dailydot.com/debug/target-police-relationship-george-floyd/) is involved with testing and setting up police surveillance technology and such.

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> Specifically, critics began pointing to a $300,000 donation from Target to the city in 2004 aimed at helping set up surveillance cameras throughout downtown Minneapolis.
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> Around the same time Target also began a “SafeZone Collaborative,” which saw the company aid the creation of a sprawling surveillance camera system over several dozen blocks of the city.
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> While Target has said that the initiative was aimed at reducing crime around its stores to ensure customer safety, others view the system as predatory.

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/192 "2020-05-29T19:09:25Z")

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For those of you whinging about the destruction of property etc during a riot, please read this:  
[Jim Wright \>Stonekettle Station](https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=stonekettle%20station&epa=SEARCH_BOX)

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/193 "2020-05-29T19:11:41Z")

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They were co-workers??? That guy smashing the AutoZone windows???

This whole this is getting fishier than a Sushi Bar.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/194 "2020-05-29T19:17:13Z")

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> [@slumtrimpet](#):
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> For those of you whinging about the destruction of property etc during a riot, please read this:  
> [Jim Wright \>Stonekettle Station](https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=stonekettle%20station&epa=SEARCH_BOX)

Can you use your words to explain what you mean? Because your page says:  
“This page isn’t available  
The link you followed may be broken, or the page may have been removed.”

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/195 "2020-05-29T19:22:01Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> They were co-workers??? That guy smashing the AutoZone windows???
> 
> This whole this is getting fishier than a Sushi Bar.

Where are you getting this?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/196 "2020-05-29T19:45:49Z")

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> [@slumtrimpet](#):
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> For those of you whinging about the destruction of property etc during a riot, please read this:  
> [Jim Wright \>Stonekettle Station](https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=stonekettle%20station&epa=SEARCH_BOX)

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Can you use your words to explain what you mean? Because your page says:  
> “This page isn’t available  
> The link you followed may be broken, or the page may have been removed.”

The link took me to a Facebook page, but I have no idea what **slumtrimpet** thought should be read on the page. Plus, if I understand Facebook correctly, what is displayed on a page like that changes depending on who is viewing it and how Facebook’s algo interprets their habits/likes/etc.

So, yeah: could you just quote the part you think we should read, please?

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/197 "2020-05-29T19:48:49Z")

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Probably this guy [Jim Wright](https://www.facebook.com/Stonekettle) and/or [this post](https://www.facebook.com/Stonekettle/posts/3034582223243827)?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/198 "2020-05-29T19:49:08Z")

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FWIW, plugging the exact phrase “Jim Wright \>Stonekettle Station” into Google returned [this](https://osociety.org/2019/01/31/precision-and-a-crooked-stick/).

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/199 "2020-05-29T19:52:28Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> They were co-workers??? That guy smashing the AutoZone windows???
> 
> This whole this is getting fishier than a Sushi Bar.

No, no, no.  
George Floyd and Deric Chauvin had been co-workers (bouncers) at a local restaurant for many years. Nothing to do with the guy smashing windows.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/200 "2020-05-29T19:52:28Z")

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> Probably this guy [Jim Wright](https://www.facebook.com/Stonekettle) and/or [this post](https://www.facebook.com/Stonekettle/posts/3034582223243827)?

This is the part that really hits it: “Let’s be real goddamn clear about this: The racist murdering cop would STILL BE ON THE FORCE RIGHT NOW, if people hadn’t taken to the streets and burned the fucking city down.”

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