# Minneapolis is Burning...?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 28, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589 "2020-05-28T07:45:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/341 "2020-06-01T00:15:38Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Dumb fuck #1 blames Antifa. An organization with no organization. Based on what evidence? This is the modern Reichstag fire. Protests against police murder attracts right wingers who loot and burn to make protesters look bad. Moron in chief blames left wing group based on no evidence. All who oppose Twitler are declared enemies of the state and rounded up. Public votes for “law and order” so that criminals stay in charge.

While I do fear what will take place in the election I do take comfort on knowing a bit of history, and have more confidence when knowing that George Bush father lost his second term to Bill Clinton after Bush tried to demonize even the peaceful protesters of the LA riots.

It is very hard to convince the ones that he is trying to get them to vote for him that the pee that the powers that be are dropping on them is actually rain.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/342 "2020-06-01T00:24:50Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> While I do fear what will take place in the election I do take comfort on knowing a bit of history, and have more confidence when knowing that George Bush father lost his second term to Bill Clinton after Bush tried to demonize even the peaceful protesters of the LA riots.
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> It is very hard to convince the ones that he is trying to get them to vote for him that the pee that the powers that be are dropping on them is actually rain.

Bush lost because Read my lips, no new taxes. The LA Riots had nothing to do with it.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/343 "2020-06-01T00:57:36Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Lot of clips out there showing police in various cities acting like just another gang of toughs, shoving people out of their way just because, driving cars into crowds of people for no apparent reason.
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> Maybe they’re acting like an occupying army [because they live elsewhere](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-police-dont-live-in-the-cities-they-serve/), or maybe they’re just assholes. Hard to tell.

When even mayor DeBlasio is putting the blame on violent rioters for surrounding vehicles and causing mayhem you know the politicians in charge fear the optics of hordes of anarchists running rampant. Really, it’s possible to protest police brutality without behaving like a thug. Arson, assault, looting, etc. has no place in a protest.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/344 "2020-06-01T00:59:55Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> When even mayor DeBlasio is putting the blame on violent rioters for surrounding vehicles and causing mayhem you know the politicians in charge fear the optics of hordes of anarchists running rampant. Really, it’s possible to protest police brutality without behaving like a thug. Arson, assault, looting, etc. has no place in a protest.

Wait, what? Next you will be saying it’s possible to be a cop without kneeling on a handcuffed black guy’s neck until he dies!

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/345 "2020-06-01T01:39:35Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Wait, what? Next you will be saying it’s possible to be a cop without kneeling on a handcuffed black guy’s neck until he dies!

I’ve never been a fan or advocate, in stark contrast to many on this board, of police brutality, mob violence, or extrajudicial punishment.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/346 "2020-06-01T01:52:08Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I’ve never been a fan or advocate, in stark contrast to many on this board, of police brutality, mob violence, or extrajudicial punishment.

I thought complaints about moderation went in ATMB . . . oh wait, you’re trying to be serious again aren’t you?

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/347 "2020-06-01T03:12:54Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Please provide a cite for this claim. Thanks in advance.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Blow it out your ass.

> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Wait, what? Next you will be saying it’s possible to be a cop without kneeling on a handcuffed black guy’s neck until he dies!

Why are you even bothering to waste bandwidth replying to him?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/348 "2020-06-01T03:24:46Z")

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Can we recognize the sheriff of Genesee County, Michigan, who took off his helmet and set down his weapons, and marched with the protesters?

> **[A sheriff put down his baton to listen to protesters. They chanted 'walk with...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/us/flint-michigan-protest-police-trnd/index.html)**
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> A Michigan sheriff joined protesters in Flint Township on Saturday, putting down his weapons and saying, "I want to make this a parade, not a protest."

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/349 "2020-06-01T05:51:35Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Bush lost because Read my lips, no new taxes. The LA Riots had nothing to do with it.

Mind you that is not the argument the right is making when they claim falsely that Democrats approve of the rioting, the point is that regarding the innuendo of the democrats supporting the rioters, that accusation then was \*\*useless \*\*back in 1992. As it was then also useless for the Republicans when they insisted that they, like now they are the “law and order” guys.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/350 "2020-06-01T06:13:53Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> When even mayor DeBlasio is putting the blame on violent rioters for surrounding vehicles and causing mayhem you know the politicians in charge fear the optics of hordes of anarchists running rampant. Really, it’s possible to protest police brutality without behaving like a thug. Arson, assault, looting, etc. has no place in a protest.

And when anyone with eyes can see the police driving INTO the crowd, your “concern” is ludicrous.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/351 "2020-06-01T07:47:20Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> And when anyone with eyes can see the police driving INTO the crowd, your “concern” is ludicrous.

Not concerned. They need to move out the way. Stop jumping on vehicles and causing destruction. Won’t get ran over.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/352 "2020-06-01T11:50:50Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Not concerned. They need to move out the way. Stop jumping on vehicles and causing destruction. Won’t get ran over.

Of course they’ll get run over, the police are maniacs. The police response to peaceful protest is to open fire.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/353 "2020-06-01T12:23:36Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Can we recognize the sheriff of Genesee County, Michigan, who took off his helmet and set down his weapons, and marched with the protesters?  
> [https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/us/flint-michigan-protest-police-trnd/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/us/flint-michigan-protest-police-trnd/index.html)

Similar in some other places, including Camden, New Jersey – I posted a couple of links in one of the other threads.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/354 "2020-06-01T12:40:08Z")

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Seems like the PDs that decided the protesters weren’t their enemy had a lot less violence than the PDs that decided they were their enemy. If this is true, then I would suggest that this isn’t a coincidence. Some PDs still have the 60s mindset, and anyone challenging the police must be put down. They should emulate the PDs who have moved into the present and recognize the old ways of doing things were both morally and pragmatically bad.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/355 "2020-06-01T12:49:18Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Not concerned. They need to move out the way. Stop jumping on vehicles and causing destruction. Won’t get ran over.

[How about when a semi barrels into a massive group of peaceful protesters?](https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/31/breaking-semi-truck-appears-to-drive-through-protest-marchers-on-i-35w-bridge/)

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/356 "2020-06-01T14:27:04Z")

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My daughter was marching in New Orleans this weekend. You won’t hear about the New Orleans protests because they remained peaceful.  
She has publicly thanked the NOPD for their crowd control and for not going into riot suppression mode.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/357 "2020-06-01T14:28:50Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> My daughter was marching in New Orleans this weekend. You won’t hear about the New Orleans protests because they remained peaceful.

Strange, a quick google search shows numerous stories about the peaceful protests in New Orleans.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/358 "2020-06-01T14:58:50Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Can we recognize the sheriff of Genesee County, Michigan, who took off his helmet and set down his weapons, and marched with the protesters?  
> [https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/us/flint-michigan-protest-police-trnd/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/us/flint-michigan-protest-police-trnd/index.html)

Amen. #walkwithus

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/359 "2020-06-01T15:20:04Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Not concerned. They need to move out the way. Stop jumping on vehicles and causing destruction. Won’t get ran over.

This is the kind of rote response that makes you sound like a mindless non-player character in a video game.

If you’re going to do that, at least do the one where you beclown yourself by sticking your fingers in your ears and saying “buzz buzz buzz”. At least that one has some cringey comedic value.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/360 "2020-06-01T16:04:29Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Not concerned. They need to move out the way. Stop jumping on vehicles and causing destruction. Won’t get ran over.

Sure. But it started with the running over, not “jumping on vehicles and causing destruction”.

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