# Minneapolis is Burning...? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 28, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589 "2020-05-28T07:45:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/441 "2020-06-03T14:54:24Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > Why _wouldn’t_ they? **Translation: I got nuthin’** :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/442 "2020-06-03T14:58:40Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > My phone won’t let me search, so if anyone wants to for me-back in March, someone posted that astrology boards were predicting riots and civil war because of the conjunction (in March)of Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Pluto. Looks like they were right. Always watch out for Uranus. [http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/mar2020gmt.shtml](http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/mar2020gmt.shtml) Excerpt from a reliable ephemeris says that Uranus was in Taurus. There is a somewhat unusual abundance in Capricorn, but that is usually held to favor the conservative and change-resistant. Antifas probably has better astrologers than the Republican Party. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/443 "2020-06-03T15:22:29Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > [And then there’s the Boston PD, with a truck full of bricks.](https://twitter.com/XRP_Baghead/status/1267618924524421120) Carefully stacking them in an alleyway. Stop pushing conspiracies. We have enough problems as it is. They where Northeastern University police [removing broken up bricks from a sidewalk](https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2020/06/02/northeastern-police-bricks-truck-video). It was a safety issue. Twitter is a terrible place to get one’s news. ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/444 "2020-06-03T15:48:42Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > **Translation: I got nuthin’** :rolleyes: What do you think I should have to ‘get’? I’m not American, but if even _half_ the stuff I hear on these boards about what life is like for Black Americans is true then it’d be a miracle if they _didn’t_ hate you. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/445 "2020-06-03T15:58:11Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > Why _wouldn’t_ they? Because they aren’t racist? It would be understandable if they resent the police and don’t find them trustworthy, but I see no reason to assume that large swaths of African Americans hate white people. Hence, the request for the cite for that claim. It could be true, but I’d need to see a cite. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/446 "2020-06-03T16:11:26Z")
The reason why lots of black people hate the government is because significant parts of the government actively persecute them. The way to solve this problem is for those parts of the government to stop persecuting blacks. Yes, this will be a slow solution: Even if all of the persecution were to stop today, it’d take decades to build up trust. But it’s the only solution that will work at all. ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/447 "2020-06-03T16:21:35Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Because they aren’t racist? It would be understandable if they resent the police and don’t find them trustworthy, but I see no reason to assume that large swaths of African Americans hate white people. Hence, the request for the cite for that claim. > > It could be true, but I’d need to see a cite. It’d be hard to find a cite because no-one would voluntarily tell a pollster that they’re racist. So we need to apply a little common sense. If you’re black, and you live in a White Supremacist society, and you’re surrounded by white people with massive amounts of unearned privilege they’ve done nothing to divest themselves of who get to swan through life while you get to struggle for everything - assuming, that is, that you’re lucky enough not to be gunned down for no reason by a racist cop - then…well, why _wouldn’t_ you hate white people? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/448 "2020-06-03T16:25:00Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Why are people even replying to **octopus**? Replying to who? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/449 "2020-06-03T16:30:32Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Because they aren’t racist? It would be understandable if they resent the police and don’t find them trustworthy, but I see no reason to assume that large swaths of African Americans hate white people. Hence, the request for the cite for that claim. > > It could be true, but I’d need to see a cite. People sometimes assume that because they would hate anyone who has something they think is undeserved, that everyone would hate anyone who has something that is undeserved. Sometimes they confuse “common sense” with their own biases, and project from there. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/450 "2020-06-03T16:31:54Z")
> [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > Large segments of people in these black neighborhoods hate white people and hate our government. Until you change that, I don’t know how you fix it. Trying to redefine the problem to be fundamentally about the **feelings** of people being mistreated, rather than the mistreatment of them itself, is a lazy evasion. Don’t come here whining about the need to change black people’s attitude toward white people and the government; fix the racist behavior on the part of many white people and governments that is causing the problem in the first place. Black communities didn’t erupt in protest over a video of white people putting on sunscreen or eating kielbasa or engaging in any other stereotypically white but non-racist actions. They protested over a video of white government employees callously murdering a black man (and the subsequent lack of disciplinary action against the murderers). The problem is not black “haters”; it’s the hateful actions targeting blacks. ---
**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/451 "2020-06-03T21:45:26Z")
> [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > Large segments of people in these black neighborhoods hate white people and hate our government. Until you change that, I don’t know how you fix it. People have been generically hating government and authority and those different from them since they became people. That will never change. If you’re seeking change, you need another tactic. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/452 "2020-06-03T21:47:24Z")
Two kinds of problems in the world: the problems that can be solved, and people. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589/453 "2020-06-03T23:12:03Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The Secretary of Defense has declared our United States to be a “Battlezone”. If you don’t think the shit has hit the fan, then you don’t know shit. Shit? Trump knows shit 'cause he is shit, so when he calls Temporary Protective Status countries “shithole countries” you know he knows what he’s talking about. I gotta admit, though, failed state and shithole country come to mind re. the USA, with the present race based police riots, the racialized highest incarceration rate of any country other than possibly North Korea and China, about a quarter of the people either without health care or with inadequate health care – again racialized, and foundational racism starting with slavery leading to today’s race-based discrimination and marginalization. Sorry folks, but presently the USA is a failed state and a shithole country. I very much hope that you can get your act together. If Trump gets elected again in November, then you have no one else other than yourselves to blame. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minneapolis-is-burning/854589.md?page=22)