# Minnesota gays and lesbians are very sorry... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 22, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112 "2011-12-22T20:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112/81 "2011-12-30T12:16:20Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > The LGBT community has withstood vicious ugly public assaults against them for decades. One member of the LBGT community wrote a snarky letter. That doesn’t make the two equivalent in any way. Again, demanding that the LGBT community or its members never, not once, snap back after decades of oppression and humiliation is a sanctimonious demand. Au contraire. If you are not a saint, without sin or spot, then you are the equivalent of Hitler, Stalin and Piers Morgan rolled into one. There can be no shades of grey here, no middle ground. Failure to turn the other cheek is the same as a boot to the face. Failure to smile while they stab you is the same as poisoning their children. And pointing out one person’s hypocrisy is the same as attempting to create legislation that would make thousands of people second-class citizens. ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112/82 "2011-12-31T01:04:27Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Wow. I missed this development. > > As I said before, I thought _the gay community_ made those comments (whatever constitutes the gay community in that region), not one person. If an organization had said that, that would’ve been in poor taste. Comedian? Fair game. But an organization or person representing a general community? Have some class, please. > > I, like I assume many people reading that article/thread, didn’t realize at first that the newspaper did some shitty reporting with the sensationalist headline. I still stand by my statement: If your position is that your marriage/sex life/etc isn’t the public’s business, don’t get into other people’s shit. I mean, really? I’m fine with this guy as a representative of _the gay community_, italics and all!, at least in this matter. Still not entirely clear on who appointed you to judge _the gay community_’s class or lack thereof. Are you at least some flavor of LGBT? (P.S.: Not sure if you’re clear on this, your post suggests not, but we don’t actually elect representatives; we don’t even have honorary non-voting representation in Congress like the District of Columbia does, so no one actually represents _the gay community_ under any circumstances.) ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112/83 "2011-12-31T01:14:25Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Snark and nasty are for the right wingers. Be logical, stay on course, and leave the rest to comedians and individuals (like the gentlemen who wrote the letter). Again, if an organization had written that letter, I’d object wholeheartedly. That one man? Well, good for him and shame on the paper (and others, eg HuffPo) for bad reporting. Apparently we aren’t reading very well. If an organization had made that comment…yeah, bad public relations. Full stop stupid idea. ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112/84 "2011-12-31T01:15:03Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > You don’t beat assholes by returning their behaviour. Don’t roll in the filth with the pigs. Since when? Or, in the local vernacular, I suppose I should say, “Cite?” Seriously, is there any evidence that being nice to bigots helps us? Or is it more just an excuse for telling us to be quiet? (Sorry for the multi-post, I was off sharing the holiday season with beloved and somewhat beloved family.) ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112/85 "2011-12-31T01:16:28Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Apparently we aren’t reading very well. > > If an organization had made that comment…yeah, bad public relations. Full stop stupid idea. Okay, so, again, why do you have so many opinions about what organizations should do, and why do you non-specifically complain about _the gay community_ without learning whether _the gay community_’s duly elected representative was the one responsible for the letter that offended your delicate little sensibilities so, so much? ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112/86 "2011-12-31T01:18:52Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Public humiliation is how bigotry and other such garbage **becomes** “socially unacceptable”. Thank you, this, exactly. (Again, apologies for my verbal diarrhea.) ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112/87 "2011-12-31T01:20:08Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Oh, so being snarky about one’s personal life is good PR? I’ll fire off that memo to the HRC, NAACP, ACLU, the DNC and other campaigns. I don’t think you need to bother; they are unlikely to worry any more about your irrelevant opinions than the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112/88 "2011-12-31T02:33:37Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Apparently we aren’t reading very well. > > If an organization had made that comment…yeah, bad public relations. Full stop stupid idea. Perhaps, but again - an organization of oppressed people who’ve been the target of public, vicious, ongoing, decades-long attacks and denials of their human rights that decides to snark a bit when one of their oppressors’ hypocrisy is revealed is to be excused, I feel. Not that I think that an organization would have done so. Cooler heads and all that. But if an organization had issued such snark, their reaction could be well understood by reasonable people. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112/89 "2012-01-01T01:26:36Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > (Again, apologies for my verbal diarrhea.) Helpful tip: if you want to respond to multiple quotes in a thread, click the “multi-quote” button (looks like an open quote and a plus sign) at the bottom of each post you want to quote. When you get to the end of the thread, press “Post Reply,” and all the posts you tagged will appear in separate quote boxes. You can type your responses between the boxes, and the whole thing will show up as one post. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112/90 "2012-01-05T15:01:25Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > When the allies went to war against Germany War? But… but… you returning nastiness for nastiness is **mean**! [/sarcasm] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-gays-and-lesbians-are-very-sorry/607112.md?page=4)