# Minnesota trial of Derek Chauvin (killer of George Floyd) reactions **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 30, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024 "2021-03-30T13:14:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/883 "2021-05-07T20:00:13Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I don’t know, and I don’t think anyone has released the actual questions yet So not only do you have no proof, you don’t even have a basis for the accusation. Come back to us when you have proof. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/884 "2021-05-07T20:01:26Z")
He lied to the intent of the questions, you are the ones trying to break it down to was he in Minneapolis or DC, or just because he had a BLM hat on doesn’t mean he was biased. The whole thing is now a shit show. They should have moved the trial. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/885 "2021-05-07T20:04:33Z")
> [@StraightTalk](#): > > You shouldn’t have to interpret intent in a jury questionnaire. You shouldn’t have to interpret anything in a jury questionnaire. The questions should have been written to get the information they wanted and not make the potential jurors have to guess about what they wanted from the question. It should be clear in the question. Quoted for truth. There’s an old saying in Law: ambiguity befalls the drafter (the one who wrote the document). If he said yes to the question, as worded, but had _not_ participated in any demonstrations or rallies _in Minneapolis,_ **then** he would have been lying. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/886 "2021-05-07T20:06:09Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > He lied to the intent of the questions, you are the ones trying to break it down to was he in Minneapolis or DC, or just because he had a BLM hat on doesn’t mean he was biased. No, he didn’t. They wanted to know about protests in Minneapolis, about George Floyd’s murder. If they’d wanted to know about gatherings unrelated to George Floyd’s murder, in other cities, they wouldn’t have added those qualifiers to the question. But then there’s the problem that the question would be so broad as to be meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/887 "2021-05-07T20:09:30Z")
He lied to the intent of the questions. They are trying to find bias. Do I know if they asked him if he was in DC wearing a BLM hat and shirt, no. I think they asked him if he attended any BLM related protests. That is a yes for a fact. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/888 "2021-05-07T20:11:25Z")
Ok you show me the questions they actually asked him. Point out to me where they ask just about Minneapolis. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/889 "2021-05-07T20:16:18Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Point out to me where they ask just about Minneapolis Sorry, it is your job to put them in front of us. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/890 "2021-05-07T20:18:23Z")
He posted a link to the questionnaire in post #877 > [@Minnesota trial of Derek Chauvin (killer of George Floyd) reactions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/879): > > [You can see the questionnaire here.](https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12646/JurorQuestionnaire12222020.pdf) I believe you’re thinking of question 7, which is “Did you, or someone close to you, participate in any of the demonstrations or marches against police brutality that took place iin Minneapolis after George Floyd’s death?” So your recollection was pretty solid. The photo in question was neither a George Floyd rally, nor in Minneapolis. And nothing on the rest of the questionnaire says anything about BLM. So, what exactly is the lie here, split? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/891 "2021-05-07T20:20:27Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Ok you show me the questions they actually asked him. Miller linked to the actual questionnaire. It says Minneapolis. However, they also asked this question (but I don’t know how he answered it) (and “protest abut police use of force or police brutality” is a bit vague too (would the MLK event qualify? I don’t know). I assume there was a lot of oral questioning after these questionnaires were filled out. We don’t know what this juror told them during that process. > 12.Other than what you have already described above, have you, or anyone close to you, participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality?  Yes  No ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/892 "2021-05-07T20:26:08Z")
Thanks for that. Now that I’ve read it I’m even more sure that he lied. You were all right about the Minneapolis thing, and I will say that it appears he wasn’t in the Minneapolis protests, but that was you guys trying to parse it down; he wasn’t in Minneapolis he was in DC so its all good he answered the question honestly. The real questions damn him even more than that. Thank you again. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/893 "2021-05-07T20:28:56Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > […] but that was you guys trying to parse it down […] Due respect, it’s starting to sound like argument by repetition/assertion: > **[Argument by Repetition](https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/cgi-bin/uy/webpages.cgi?%2Flogicalfallacies%2FArgument-by-Repetition)** > > Repeating an argument or a premise over and over again in place of better supporting evidence. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/894 "2021-05-07T20:29:26Z")
No see question 12 further down. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/895 "2021-05-07T20:31:07Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > No see question 12 further down.- I haven’t see any reports that he answered that “no.” ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/896 "2021-05-07T20:32:25Z")
See question 13 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/897 "2021-05-07T20:33:41Z")
What was his answer on question 13? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/898 "2021-05-07T20:34:12Z")
From the Newsweek article: > “He said he had an extremely favorable opinion of Black Lives Matter as a statement; he expressed concern for how Black people are treated unequally; and he said he would be excited to serve on the jury because this was such an important and historic trial,” she said. “He was very clear about his opinions and the lawyers picked him.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/899 "2021-05-07T20:34:36Z")
So it sounds like this juror did not lie on question 13 ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/900 "2021-05-07T20:34:39Z")
You really believe that if he answered truthfully to either of the questions he would have been allowed on the jury? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/901 "2021-05-07T20:34:57Z")
Do you have any evidence that he did not answer those questions truthfully? ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/902 "2021-05-07T20:36:54Z")
You can’t be serious right? You really think Chauvins lawyers would have let this guy on the jury if he answered honestly? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024.md?page=46)