# Minnesota trial of Derek Chauvin (killer of George Floyd) reactions **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 30, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024 "2021-03-30T13:14:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 51
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1003 "2021-06-27T00:31:20Z")
You mean "the Floyd family " I think. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1004 "2021-06-27T00:46:17Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > He also faces some significant tax evasion charges from the Minnesota Department of Revenue. Basically, he hid half a million dollars in income from the State by claiming he lived in Florida (he does own a house in Florida, but since his job is in Minnesota and he lives here more than half time, Minnesota gets their cut). Given that he is now a convicted felon, its somewhat less likely that he will get off with a mere fine. Plus, its hard to pay back taxes with penalties and interest from the joint. > > Minnesota was looking into the tax thing before he killed Floyd. The IRS are apparently pushovers compared to the Minnesota Department of Revenue. Great points (as well as the other posts about Chauvin working ‘off the books’ at extra jobs). His main recreation, over the next few years, may turn out to be “getting to put on a suit and ride the prison bus to court.” Sounds as though it may end up as a fairly regular part of his schedule. \ > [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Pending federal charges might also factor into his reluctance to accept guilt and give a full and open expression of remorse, apart from mere delusion. True; he may even have been given explicit advice to that effect. \ > [@Procrustus](#): > > 22 years makes a statement. I’m not sure 30 years would have made a different one. Yeah, I think that’s true. For some, nothing less than a public execution of Chauvin would have been “satisfying,” and that was never going to happen. If the upshot of all this is that some cop, somewhere in America, decides against harassing and committing violence against a vulnerable person because he (probably) now fears he won’t get away with it, then _that_ will be satisfying. Or at least it will be if such fears become widespread throughout L.E. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1005 "2021-06-27T01:17:04Z")
Oh duh, yes of course. Sorry for the error. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1006 "2021-06-27T02:31:07Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Could Chauvin still have ties to (less-than-honorable) LEOs on the outside who could be persuaded – by Chauvin – to be … er … ‘less hostile to’ the (outside) business interests of some of those whose protection he seeks on the inside ? This runs into the “honor among thieves” thing. And it’s mostly a myth. Most criminals are only going to look out for their own interests. Even if Chauvin has some former colleagues who are crooked cops like he was, they’re going to be asking why it’s in their interest to protect Chauvin. If they’re going to sell out, they’re going to do it for their own profit not for Chauvin’s sake. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1007 "2021-06-27T02:35:39Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > I’d like to make a brief hijack to complain about the number of references to a 22.5 year sentence with an expected actual term of 15 years being the rest of “his effective life” for a 45 year old man. He will be released at the age of sixty. You people know that there are dozens; nay, hundreds of people in their sixties living full, rich lives, right? I cringe every time I see it mentioned that he’ll be moving from prison to a rest home. For regular people, yes. I’m not that far away from sixty-seven myself so I know it’s not an age where you go off to the senior center. But we’re talking about a prisoner. Being in prison ages you much faster than a normal life does. I’ve seen prisoners in their fifties who look twenty or thirty years older. Somebody starting a twenty year sentence at the age of forty-five is going to leave prison an old man. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1008 "2021-06-27T16:21:41Z")
I forgot one, he also faces federal charges for hitting a 14 year old with a flashlight and kneeling on him. [Prosecutors: 14-year-old boy cried ‘mom’ as Chauvin knelt on his back for 17 minutes | MPR News](https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/11/18/prosecutors-14yearold-boy-cried-mom-as-chauvin-knelt-on-his-back-for-17-minutes) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1009 "2021-06-28T09:41:12Z")
Just being sixty-something isn’t the end of one’s life. But when you’re coming out of prison from a long sentence for a high-profile murder and you’re sixty-something, your prospects are going to be pretty damn limited. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1010 "2021-06-28T14:43:03Z")
And that is assuming no federal sentences are tacked on for the two cases they have (Floyd and the teenager) and not permitted to be served concurrently, and that the Minnesota Department of Revenue case does not end up with jail time not to be served concurrently. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1011 "2021-07-27T21:04:35Z")
Bumping because we just got a call from this organization: [https://twitter.com/cpod\_4\_police](https://twitter.com/cpod_4_police) They were asking for a donation; I’d bet they helped fund Chauvin’s defense. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1012 "2021-07-29T20:09:03Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Bumping because we just got a call from this organization: > > [https://twitter.com/cpod\_4\_police](https://twitter.com/cpod_4_police) Interesting. That Twitter page link has this warning on it: > Caution: This account is temporarily restricted > You’re seeing this warning because there has been some unusual activity from this account. Do you still want to view it? When I clicked through, the most recent post was about the congresspeople from Texas heading to DC to avoid a quorum and push for voting rights legislation to be passed on the federal level, from July 14. However, I do note that their previous most recent post was from April. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1013 "2021-09-24T07:20:39Z")
To absolutely no one’s surprise. [Derek Chauvin appeals his conviction in George Floyd’s death](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/derek-chauvin-appeals-his-conviction-in-george-floyd-s-death/ar-AAOLum8) > Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer found guilty of murdering George Floyd, appealed the conviction on his own behalf at the 11th-hour Thursday > … > In the filing, which was made on the last say it could be, Chauvin said he’s out of money and “unrepresented by legal counsel in connection with the appeal.” > … > Late Thursday, Judge Peter Cahill, who presided over Chauvin’s trial, granted Chauvin “pauper status,” which means he’s exempt from having to pay court costs and filing fees. With the usual litany of complaints about the original trial. Mostly summed up under 'The court “abused its discretion” ’ [sic] ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1014 "2021-09-24T08:41:07Z")
Derek Chauvin is cordially invited to go fuck himself. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1015 "2021-09-24T08:58:50Z")
I think he thoroughly did that when he murdered George Floyd. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1016 "2021-09-24T09:00:40Z")
Welp, good luck with that, Derek. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1017 "2021-09-24T09:25:37Z")
Regarding his pauper status, he qualifies for this because he and his ex wife agreed on an inequal division of assets in their divorce back in February. Could have been worse, though; their original proposal was so lopsided it was rejected by the judge for being a transparently fraudulent attempt to protect assets. If this guy were any more full of shit you could hang a door on his face and call him a portajohn. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1018 "2021-12-13T22:22:23Z")
> **[Derek Chauvin to change plea in federal civil rights case in death of George...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/13/us/derek-chauvin-federal-plea-change/index.html)** > > Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer who was convicted in April on state murder charges for killing George Floyd, is scheduled to appear at a change of plea hearing Wednesday in the federal civil rights case against him, according to... ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1019 "2021-12-13T23:06:12Z")
He had originally pled not guilty to the Federal charges. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1020 "2021-12-13T23:31:57Z")
So you would think he is agreeing to a plea bargain. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1021 "2021-12-14T00:29:13Z")
Yes. Maybe he can get the Federal time to be concurrent with the State time or to serve the time in Federal prison which is considered easier. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/1022 "2021-12-14T01:53:22Z")
IA[obviously]NAL, but my understanding is that if he pleads _Nolo Contendere_, that cannot be used against him in a civil trial (which he is most assuredly facing). Being convicted, or taking an Alford plea, could be. I stand — or sit — ready to be corrected. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024.md?page=50) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024.md?page=52)