# Minor complaint about the Commisar Banned announcement **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [August 4, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462 "2011-08-04T14:52:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/1 "2011-08-04T14:52:47Z")
**Marley23** , when you announce a banning, could you post links to the actual warning the person got, instead of links to the offending posts? This would be more helpful as instructive lessons to us peons, because it shows moderator actions, in response to offenses. Pointing to a troll’s wall-of-text doesn’t show us what specific part of said wall-of-text was the rule violation. Wall-of-text posting isn’t a rule violation, and I’d rather not have to dig through one to try to find the violation. I don’t envy you in having to moderate those. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/2 "2011-08-04T14:57:42Z")
It’s just easier to link to the posts since we can access those from his profile, and you can always just scroll down to the warnings. **Commissar** ’s warnings were: [**Spectre of Pithecanthropus** on 7/30](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14082436&postcount=1627) [**tomndebb** on 8/1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14086942&postcount=1655) [Me, yesterday.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14092634#post14092634) ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/3 "2011-08-04T14:58:28Z")
You also did it in the **Sablicious** Suspended announcement. Although those weren’t wall-of-text, and the violations were easier to pick out. Near simulpost. Thanks for your response. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/4 "2011-08-04T14:58:33Z")
In every link included in Marleys announcement, the actual warning was within three or four posts of the post by Commisar. Not exactly hard to find. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/5 "2011-08-04T16:20:06Z")
Huh, I thought it was just me. I sent a report on the Sablicious announcement thinking it might have been in error–or that I might have been imagining things that it was typically the warnings that get posted, not the action. Since there’s now a thread, I’ll comment that I too appreciate the links to the warnings, not just the offending posts. Oftentimes there is a bit of explanation in the mod post, and the warnings usually edit the offending post down just to the infraction. While some links are more ‘here’s the evidence’ than ‘here’s what you need to do to avoid a warning’ or rules clarification, linking to the warning makes it easier to figure out what is what. Not that searching in-thread for '[warning] is too much trouble, but if it’s phrased as [modding] or other poster’s quote in-thread, it can get a bit messy. So not a big deal, this is just the two cents of someone who doesn’t want to get back to work. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/6 "2011-08-04T17:04:19Z")
At least for me, the linking and the amount of explanation in the announcement of a ban or suspension is a function of how much spare time I have. I’m kind of busy, so the **Commissar** and **Sablicious** posts were short. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/7 "2011-08-04T18:27:21Z")
Does that mean I have to get back to work? Shit. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/8 "2011-08-04T19:18:37Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > In every link included in Marleys announcement, the actual warning was within three or four posts of the post by Commisar. Not exactly hard to find. In these cases it was pretty easy, but what about cases where the warning doesn’t come until 15 to 30 posts later? But it’s at least better than posting a link to the whole thread as your cite. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/9 "2011-08-04T20:07:52Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Does that mean I have to get back to work? Shit. And can you come in Saturday to finish those TPS reports? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/10 "2011-08-04T21:48:55Z")
How are those posts from \*\*Commissar \*\*any different from what **Der Trihs** posts here every day and twice on Sunday re: Republicans, conservatives, Christians or, for that matter, Americans? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/11 "2011-08-04T21:56:29Z")
**Der Trihs** bothers some people because his views on religion and politics are extreme and he’s not shy about them. He doesn’t go out of his way to annoy people and then play dumb when called on it, which is what **Commissar** was donig. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/12 "2011-08-04T21:58:21Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > How are those posts from \*\*Commissar \*\*any different from what **Der Trihs** posts here every day and twice on Sunday re: Republicans, conservatives, Christians or, for that matter, Americans? Separate issue, but a good point. I don’t care if my thread gets hijacked over it, if you want to continue the discussion, here. My point has already been made. Or start a new thread, appropriately titled, as that might get you more responses. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/13 "2011-08-05T00:37:43Z")
Yeah, it would be better to start a new thread, please. I’d prefer to close this one if you feel your query has been answered sufficiently. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/14 "2011-08-05T00:57:35Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Yeah, it would be better to start a new thread, please. I’d prefer to close this one if you feel your query has been answered sufficiently. You can close it. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/15 "2011-08-05T01:19:32Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Yeah, it would be better to start a new thread, please. I’d prefer to close this one if you feel your query has been answered sufficiently. I’m not sure I’m done. When I was a mod, we generally did post the warnings in a banning/suspension thread. I’m assuming that **Marley** ’s issue is that the automated warning system (new since my time) links to the post warned, and not to the mod post doing the warning. It makes a lot more sense to me to see the moderator action, which I know has a link to the actionable post. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/16 "2011-08-05T01:44:20Z")
Yep, that’s the situation. The automated system gives you the post warned. When we’re really pushed we’re doing good to get the notice made with all the i’s dotted and the t’s crossed, let alone track down where you actually issued the warning. Doing our best here, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/17 "2011-08-05T10:11:00Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Doing our best here, you know. Yeah, I know. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/18 "2011-08-05T12:09:14Z")
I have not read the full threads in question here, but from the material quoted in the linked warnings, it certainly looks to me as though **Commissar** is being shut down for having unpopular opinions. The insulting terms do not seem to be directed at other posters, but at those involved in the actual Libyan conflict. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/19 "2011-08-05T15:37:34Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > The insulting terms do not seem to be directed at other posters, but at those involved in the actual Libyan conflict. He was banned for trolling, not for insulting other posters. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462/20 "2011-08-05T16:15:10Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Yeah, it would be better to start a new thread, please. I’d prefer to close this one if you feel your query has been answered sufficiently. Sure, feel free. I just wanted to express my preference that links in “banned” announcements go to the warning, instead of the warnable offense. Makes it easier to figure out what the offender did. My purpose was accomplished in **Marly** ’s first post (second of the thread). [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minor-complaint-about-the-commisar-banned-announcement/591462.md?page=2)