Minor details in great movies you would like to change

I don’t think Khan dying thinking he has won is less powerful. He didn’t win, and he is a somewhat sympathetic villain. I don’t think Kirk owning Khan by showing him that he won nothing is more powerful; in fact, it takes a lot of power away from the movie.

In Citizen Kane, we should have seen a reaction to Kane’s son dying. Not really a forgivable omission.

My understanding is that (offscreen) death was thrown in at the last minute due to lack of time. Having it offscreen wasn’t a great decision either, it should be a more important part of Kane’s life than all of the Susan Alexander stuff. Really? You’ve got minutes to show her singing ability, and we can’t see what Kane says or does when his only offspring is killed? Not really forgivable.

So much got cut from The Godfather that leaves little holes here and there, with dangling threads left that only readers of the book would recognize.

If I could have one change, it would be for them to include the scene with the teenage girl’s birthday party with the slimy movie producer, and followup scene with her mother shouting at her at the producer’s house.
In the book the girl was a tween, so it is understandable that in the cut scene they used an older girl. Regardless, this scene really sets the tone of just how creepy and disgusting a person the producer was.

Thankfully the only reference to Sonny’s unusual manhood was a brief moment at the wedding when we see Sonny’s wife holding her hands up in “the fish was this big” style for the other women. That whole topic didn’t really have any need to be in the book.

Regular people didn’t have A/C in 1981? Of course they did. Everyone living in Florida, rich and regular has had A/C way longer than that. They don’t need to cool down because there’s no A/C, or there’s a heat wave going on, they need to cool down because they have been going at it like wildcats. It’s kind of overly obvious use of symbolism and metaphor idn’t it? I mean the name of the movie is Body Heat, that’s kind of clue.

Star Wars could’ve livened things up with Darth Vader a little by showing him in more domestic situations, like back at home, unwinding with a double scotch, or pilates.

:thinking: Not to turn this into the thread about societal changes :slightly_smiling_face: but my family was most definitely not rich and my parents had central AC installed when they bought the house I grew up in (middle-class suburb of Chicago) in the late '70s.

My issue is with the humans treating him like a dog, scratching his head, and back of his neck.

In the movie Witness, the Amish boy, Samuel, finds the gun that belongs to Harrison Ford’s character -cop, John Book, mending on the lam in Amish country.

So what does Book do when he sees the kid curiously examining his gun?

He basically sneaks up behind him and barks, “DON’T MOVE!”.

This was obviously done to provide the audience with a jump scare but I think the last thing you want to do to someone playing with a handgun is to startle the bejabbers out of them.

I’d like to put a little back-story into The Blues Brothers about how Jake somehow fucks over The Good 'Ole Boys into being delayed for 5 hours, so he and his brother and The Band can sneak into Bob’s Country Bunker and steal the gig. Maybe some kind of sabotage on the Winnebago or something to explain the delay. Would also help out with the GOB’s aching desire for revenge.

As it stands, it doesn’t make to much sense. Blues Brothers show up, claim the gig for which the GOB’s never would have made anyway. Except for the bar tab, that’s a Win-Win for everyone.

But, hey, it’s The Blues Brothers. Not like it’s a documentary or anything. Also, Blue Lou should have had more lines. Fuck, he’s funny!

“Chicken Wire?”

Yep, the Good Ole Boys show up after closing time and hold a grudge against the Brothers… why, exactly?

Also, had the Blues Brothers not shown up, Bob would have had no band at all, and presumably would have lost a lot of business that night. Yet he’s pretty much ready to kill them over a hundred bucks. None of it makes any sense.

So whereas I have no problem with a pinto wagon falling from 8 miles high… after going off an unfinished on-ramp :wink:
I do have a problem with the Blues-mobile not only doing a backflip, but also a (Rockford like) 180 in mid air to be re-oriented to be going “forward” (no longer in reverse) once they land. Of all the whacky things in that movie, this one stunt bothers me (clearly indicates magic editing).

And if you’re paying attention, you see the Pinto actually gains altitude for a little just after take off. That’s some car!

I disagree. Having that throwaway reference to the deaths of Kane’s son and first wife emphasizes that Kane treated people as things to be used and discarded. The inference I took from that is that Kane had little or no contact with his ex-wife or son after the divorce, and didn’t particularly care what happened to them.

That’s supposition.

The characterization of Kane is fairly suspect anyway, a bunch of fancy words and stuff Mankewicz twisted from Hearst’s life to make Hearst look bad. Hearst’s kids were probably raised by nannies, but they followed him into the family business, despite Marion Davies the lineage seemed to matter to him. So Kane not caring about his own lineage is new to the film.

The rich guys Kane was based on cheated on their wives, probably not that uncommon to have a mistress. But not caring about his own kids, even in context with his social position and the times, doesn’t make any sense to me.

Yeah there was:

Even so, Jackson overdid it.

The Shining suffered a major blow - at the beginning when it still wasn’t winter yet - with the glaring ommission of garderers hedgtrimming that cool topiary maze.

/not at all a possibly biased landcaper’s complaint here.

Not up here in Cleveburg. I can only go by what I know. I tried many ways to cool off in the 1980s. Never occurred to me to fit A/C for most of that time.

You may not have A/C in 1981 - but I had A/C in NYC way before 1981. And my family was not rich - but window units were never that expensive.

Speaking of Star Wars, there’s one little oddity that has always bothered me. In a scene in the Death Star conference room, Vader says, “I told you she would never consciously betray the rebellion,” then continues gesturing with his hand as if he’s still talking. It baffles me that Lucas has made countless tweaks to the film, but hasn’t bothered to fix that. (Admittedly I don’t have the most recent DVD release—maybe he has fixed it.)