There is an ADA ticket with special parking that is different from the Senior ticket. I think that it’s two different lots. My understanding is that mud or erosion made the former day lot much smaller so they are limiting it to seniors and I am certain that not all of the senior tickets will be sold.
Well, that answers all of my concerns, doesn’t it?
Buy the ticket and enjoy the festival guilt free.
If you go by the Jesus method of counting where you’re already 1 when you’re born, you’re already 60. And if you can’t trust Jesus, then who can you trust.
If I’m reading this right, you don’t care about the discount: you just want the convenient space.
If you’re sure that you won’t be edging any needful seniors out, take the ticket and make sure you spend fifteen more dollars than you would have. The money will go to a vendor instead of the folks running it, but that’s maybe even better.
It’s still unethical in a black n’ white kind of way, but I think this way you’re mitigating the (so to speak) karmic imbalance.
Correct but mostly to be able to drive in and not have to deal with the shuttle schedule. Speaking of discounts, the last time I hung out with the organizer in a small group, he gave all of us a “friends and family” discount code which I could apply to any ticket even as it turns out to the senior one. If I take the senior discount and don’t add the friends discount, I’d be paying the same price as I would be for a regular ticket so it evens out.
You win the thread. We’re done here. ![]()
If you use the Korean age reckoning system, you can squeeze in almost two extra years, depending on your birthday. If you’re born on Dec 31, you’re 1 already, and the next day on Jan 1, you turn 2.
That’s good to know.
So there are essentially two different sets of considerations.
Practical: You’re paying the same amount of money as you otherwise would’ve been and you’re confident that nobody will be excluded from the event if you take up a senior space. Go for it.
Ethical: If enough people ‘go for it,’ then some seniors would be excluded because the lot would be filled with folks making the same decision as you. That’s why an ethical person doesn’t take advantage of a system even if it seems like nobody’s going to be hurt. You can’t know that, and you absolutely shouldn’t contribute to the erosion of the social contract. Suck it up and take the shuttle.
I agree that it seems like you can make this decision without actively harming anybody, but in your shoes I would make the ethical decision rather than the practical one.
Either way, I hope you go and I hope you have fun!
I don’t think there are enough people in the group of “miss the cut off by a matter of months and want to attend” to fill a small van. Maybe all of us can go and car pool so we only take one parking spot.
There might not be more than a vanful who are only months away - but I don’t think that’s ever a question that matters. I mean, is it better for you to claim to be two months older than you really are than it is for someone else claim to be a year older ? I don’t think so. And the same way you are thinking about it , so will some 58 and 57 year olds.
Maybe you can be sure that all the senior tickets won’t be sold - but you only think the disabled lot is a different lot and even if all the senior tickets aren’t sold, maybe all the parking spaces will be spoken for. I’d be really surprised if they sold exactly as many senior tickets as they have parking spaces because some vehicles will be carrying more than one person.
All seniors are equal. Some are more equal.
In dog tears, you’re ancient. Have fun!
This is probably because the younger crowd sees 59 and three quarters as well into geezerhood, while the older crowd sees that age as being well within the prime of life. ![]()
I personally wouldn’t do it but I probably wouldn’t hold it someone who was within 3-4 months. 9 months early on the other hand might earn you a raised eyebrow.
Promise to spend more money when you’re there, then be sure you do! Double how many people you tell how awesome it was.
(I honestly don’t believe anybody cares, 60?, almost 60? At a festival where most people are 30ish? )
The purpose of the “senior ticket” is to allow older festival-goers to avoid the hassle of the shuttle. You are an older festival-goer. The exact age demarcation is just because they have to pick a number. You clearly meet the intent of the rule. Buy the ticket and have fun.
I see it a similar to the “families with young children” boarding group on trains and planes. They have to pick a cutoff age (generally 6, I think). But clearly the intent is that nobody wants a family with a few smaller children separated because they have a late boarding group. So I don’t feel bad at all when I use that perk with my family where the youngest child is just a bit over the age limit. It’s better for everybody if my kids sit by me than by some stranger.
In this case it is better for everybody if you go to the festival rather than not going.
Plus if you round up to the nearest year, then you’re there.
Again, as long as you’re not crowding out handicapped parking, then you’re good. (It wasn’t a lot but more than a few that my daughter, with the handicapped parking rights, and I had to pass on activities owing to some asshat sans permit parked in handicapped. I never slashed the tires but I was sorely tempted to revert to what I would have done at age 25. )
I wouldn’t do it, if I were the OP - I’m a stickler for that kind of thing, generally. Not because I’m some moral paragon, that’s definitely not the case - I regularly exceed the speed limit on motorways (freeways) when I consider it safe to do so, for example. And that’s probably a higher risk of causing harm than exists in the OP’s situation. But if I did do it, I agree with the above. It’s similar to what I often do if I go out to eat and get a comp/discount I didn’t expect or deserve - I’ll tip a little extra so the staff share in my good fortune.
Or maybe you could find an actual senior to ride with so parking in that lot would be ethical.
If “a couple of months” is okay, then before you know it, it’s 12 months, then 24, then 36.
Go ahead. Using your senior discount will be fun at first, but much like you, it’ll get old real fast.