# Minorities should be guinea pigs in free market experiments

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 4, 2015, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785 "2015-04-04T08:08:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/21 "2015-04-04T09:25:16Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> It was contained in both the title and the OP. Apparently Indiana is the only word your dumb ass can read. There are a half dozen threads specifically about Indiana if that’s the only thing you want to discuss. I’d be happy to explain your ignorance in those as well.

Sorry, I could not read this post; all I saw was:

adffedfefd Indiana fk eka dihe akea odfi feaf gga dfe agle. Kehe iwe d ake zdioe thxriad pcjeickalyy bitla Indiana oa lkec’x pxe oley zkena plw eaet ix pcegpmm. P’e kl pyccw xp pldekpi peqr piawlicen ws ghros ix rkee.

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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/22 "2015-04-04T09:33:09Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> No, it didn’t. Even with the bill, you can’t discriminate against any federally protected classes. And, if **Bricker** is correct, it won’t let them discriminate against gay people either, even though that’s what they wanted to happen. Civil rights are a legitimate government interest.
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> They can try to change the law, but we as a country aren’t going to allow it. The governor already gave in and is trying to get a “clarification” of the law to make sure it can’t enable any additional discrimination against gay people.

But this discussion is not what the law does permit, but what the law _should_ permit. If I wanted a strict legal discussion, I would have indulged in a thread with an OP more knowledgeable than the current.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/23 "2015-04-04T09:37:25Z")

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> [@Mince](#):
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> Sorry, I could not read this post; all I saw was:
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> adffedfefd Indiana fk eka dihe akea odfi feaf gga dfe agle. Kehe iwe d ake zdioe thxriad pcjeickalyy bitla Indiana oa lkec’x pxe oley zkena plw eaet ix pcegpmm. P’e kl pyccw xp pldekpi peqr piawlicen ws ghros ix rkee.

I’m actually kinda impressed here. The word count and such line up. Did you take the time to type it out that way or use some type of scrambling feature?

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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/24 "2015-04-04T09:39:35Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> I’m actually kinda impressed here. The word count and such line up. Did you take the time to type it out that way or use some type of scrambling feature?

Well, if you’ve determined the word count and such line up, you’ve must have taken an equal amount of time. I salute you as you appear to salute me.

No devices. Just neurotics and pedantics.

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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/25 "2015-04-04T13:21:05Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> …it won’t let them discriminate against gay people either, even though that’s what they wanted to happen.

Do you really believe that’s what Pence wants?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/26 "2015-04-04T13:40:52Z")

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Citizens who are of the majority (white, straight, Christian) will always have a harder time grokking the injustice of the free market. Of course, there’s a few who are smart enough to know better, but I think the majority simply can’t conceive of situations where it’s not just about a fucking wedding cake or where the folks being discriminated against are unable to move at the whims of the free market.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/27 "2015-04-04T15:59:55Z")

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> [@Mince](#):
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> Do you really believe that’s what Pence wants?

His history would suggest yes.

From his previous campaign.

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> Congress should oppose any effort to put gay and lesbian relationships on an equal legal status with heterosexual marriage.

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> Congress should oppose any effort to recognize homsexual’s [sic] as a ‘discreet and insular minority’ entitled to the protection of anti-discrimination laws similar to those extended to women and minorities

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> Homosexuality is incompatible with military service because the presence of homosexuals in the ranks weakens unit cohesion

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/28 "2015-04-08T12:36:57Z")

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> Homosexuality is incompatible with military service because the presence of homosexuals in the ranks weakens unit cohesion

[Someone tell that to historians studying ancient the ancient Greek military.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece)

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/29 "2015-04-08T12:50:04Z")

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Businesses aren’t people and a legal entity shouldn’t intrinsically have the rights of an individual.

That’s the point this Nation got off the train at Crazy Town. This crap , Hobby Lobby and Citizens United are just houses in Crazy Town.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/30 "2015-04-08T13:26:49Z")

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> [@Mince](#):
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> What’s the alternative? Government mandating that private institutions and facilities conform to their ideal of righteousness? What if they mandated that you must accept a gay couple’s request to be invited to a Super Bowl party in your home because you’ve invited other people? What of private citizens rights? I can’t be racist/sexist/homophobe if I want to? You’re essentially dictating how people think. I think that’s a bit more frightening than what you’re suggesting in your OP.

This has to be one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve read on these boards in months.

This whole thing with refusing to serve a particular minority group isn’t a new problem that has never been dealt with before. It has been dealt with, for a situation that was far more entrenched, widespread and public than refusing to cater a gay wedding. The world did not end. White people are not required to invite Black people to their Superb Owl parties. If someone wants to be a racist, they can be, I’m pretty sure people continue to be racist.

What it has done, though, is cause a set of people to forget what life was like when discrimination was openly allowed, when businesses COULD refuse to service a large segment of the population and go right on truckin’. When black motorists needed a book to tell them where they could get service, and where they’d be turned away, because they really couldn’t count on getting service just by paying for it. The solution worked so well, so transparently, that people actually believe that the “free market” would do it on its own, and that a legal solution would somehow beat down on our freedoms.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minorities-should-be-guinea-pigs-in-free-market-experiments/716785/31 "2015-04-08T13:42:50Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> I’m actually kinda impressed here. The word count and such line up. Did you take the time to type it out that way or use some type of scrambling feature?

Scrambling is a standard feature in all Fuckheads. Unscrambling is an expensive option that most of them opt out.

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