# Miscarriage of Justice Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 4, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643 "2021-06-04T20:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/402 "2026-03-13T00:55:54Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t see how using facial recognition software **alone** to make an arrest and detain someone is not unconstitutional. That is not due process. This isn’t the first time this has happened. A YouTuber called the Civil Rights Lawyer had a video about a similar situation, and the person they arrested had Real ID showing they were someone different. The police ignored the evidence and discrepancies and arrested the man anyway. Lawsuit is ongoing. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/403 "2026-03-13T01:29:31Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > This isn’t the first time this has happened. A YouTuber called the Civil Rights Lawyer had a video about a similar situation, and the person they arrested had Real ID showing they were someone different. I also watched a YouTube video that was taken from police body cam footage in Las Vegas, where a guy was accused of trespassing in a casino. They had kicked a guy out and told him he couldn’t return, and days later, when he came back (or at least facial recognition software in the casino identified him from security cams) he was arrested. In that case, he was let go after a number of hours, because they had all of the information for the person who had been kicked out, and they had all of the information of the person they arrested, and they were clearly different people. Yet, they still held him for hours based solely on what the software said. Eventually, someone sane in law enforcement pointed out that it isn’t illegal to look like someone else, and they had to let him go. It was scary how long it took to do that though. I wonder if I can find the video… Oh yeah! Here it is! It’s 17 minutes long, folks don’t have to watch it if they don’t want to of course as I think I pretty much covered everything above. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/B9M4F_U1eEw/maxresdefault.jpg "When AI Gets an Innocent Man Arrested") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9M4F_U1eEw) ETA: I misremembered; it was in Reno, not Vegas. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2026, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/404 "2026-07-28T03:15:48Z")
> A 2018 child-luring investigation, which began in Madison, Wisconsin, and eventually extended to Halifax, Canada, was based on a false premise. > > Police were looking for a man using the Kik messaging service under the name “fus\_\_ro\_dah” (two underscores after “fus”), but they accidentally requested records for the username “fus\_ro\_dah” (one underscore after “fus”). This one-character difference led them not to the perpetrator but to a Canadian man named Brandon Klayme. > **[A missing underscore sent innocent man to prison for 18 months](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/07/police-missed-one-underscore-and-sent-the-wrong-man-to-prison/)** > > When the first step goes wrong, bad results follow. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2026, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/405 "2026-07-28T04:50:04Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > …where a guy was accused of trespassing in a casino. They had kicked a guy out and told him he couldn’t return… I was having dinner in the Cal-Neva (like, the second date with the woman who I married) and 3 Deputies came in and up to the table. Asked me why I “Chuck” was back on the property… After 10 minutes of ID check and shit, they admitted they had the wrong guy. Sucks to look like a Bad Person. Especially when you are Ugly. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2026, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/406 "2026-07-28T14:28:28Z")
Does that username mean something I don’t know about? It seems odd to me that there would be two of them. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2026, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/407 "2026-07-28T14:33:37Z")
I’ve seen it before, but I can’t remember exactly where… I think it’s maybe a three-move combo from some video game? Like, there’s an attack called “fus”, and one called “ro”, and one called “dah”, and if you use all three in that order, something extra happens. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2026, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/408 "2026-07-28T14:35:57Z")
That would certainly explain why I don’t recognize it but multiple people might want to use it. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2026, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/409 "2026-07-28T14:36:11Z")
From the article: > (Ars readers may recognize “fus ro dah” as the [Unrelenting Force “dragon shout”](https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Unrelenting_Force_(Skyrim)) from _The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim_.) ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2026, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/410 "2026-07-28T14:37:16Z")
Ah. So would that. I should have read the article before asking. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/411 "2026-09-02T02:51:03Z")
> An [investigation by Verite News and ProPublica](https://www.propublica.org/article/louisiana-jimmie-duncan-bite-mark-analysis-death-row-junk-science) last year showed that prosecutors had relied on key evidence that appeared to be fabricated by a pair of forensics experts whose use of bite mark analysis has since been widely discredited as [junk science](https://www.propublica.org/article/understanding-junk-science-forensics-criminal-justice). > **[He Spent 27 Years on Death Row as a Wrongfully Convicted Man. What Comes Next?](https://www.propublica.org/article/louisiana-angola-death-row-wrongful-conviction-jimmie-duncan)** > > 23-hour solitary confinement. 115-degree heat. Jimmie Duncan is haunted by the decades he spent in Louisiana’s Angola prison — and how, even after being released, he still isn’t truly free. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/412 "2026-09-02T06:50:04Z")
And reportedly the state AG refuses to allow anyone to be given compensation despite the state having a fund to provide restitution for those wrongly convicted and serving long sentences, and is seeking to abolish it. Because it’s expensive and a hassle. The law in red states has little to do with justice. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/413 "2026-09-02T12:16:48Z")
If blue states are better, it’s not by much – Riker’s Island is a disaster. The American system is about retribution, punishment, and profits for private prison companies, not about rehabilitation. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/414 "2026-09-02T20:36:51Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Riker’s Island is a disaster. Riker’s Island has been a disaster for more than half a century, at the least. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/415 "2026-09-24T22:34:06Z")
> A Texas court on Thursday rejected a ruling that a woman on death row for 18 years is innocent of capital murder in the killing of her 2-year-old daughter in a case that attracted bipartisan calls from lawmakers and celebrities to release her from prison. > > The sharply divided decision by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals leaves [Melissa Lucio](https://apnews.com/hub/melissa-lucio) on Texas’ death row, where she narrowly escaped execution in 2022 when the same court ordered a review of her case two days before her scheduled lethal injection. Lucio’s attorneys said Thursday they will now appeal her case to federal courts… > > Efforts to get Lucio’s conviction overturned focused on claims that the child wasn’t beaten but was injured in an accidental fall down a steep staircase two days before she died. They were bolstered when the appeals court ordered the trial court to review some of her claims. **Her original trial judge then issued a 62-page ruling in 2024 that [concluded Lucio](https://apnews.com/article/texas-execution-melissa-lucio-overturned-6846576ccf8a48fa8bfcaf3f14b80262) was “actually innocent” of capital murder**. > > **Texas appeals court rejects ruling of innocence for woman on death row for 18 years** [https://apnews.com/article/texas-death-row-melissa-lucio-fe491a8b6d28b2f4fd147a6c6d3d60bc](https://apnews.com/article/texas-death-row-melissa-lucio-fe491a8b6d28b2f4fd147a6c6d3d60bc) ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2026, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/416 "2026-09-27T23:30:24Z")
> Pike has a documented history of childhood sexual abuse, abandonment and neglect. Her lawyers believe that if she was found guilty of the same crime today as a teenager she would not receive a death sentence. In the years since her sentencing, her defence team have uncovered details about her childhood that they say the jury never had the chance to consider… > > In 1995, forensic psychologist Dr Diana McCoy was hired by Pike’s defence team and found she was severely neglected by both of her parents. McCoy’s report found Pike was physically and sexually abused by several of her mother’s husbands and boyfriends, and raped several times, once when she was 11 and again aged 17. Later, it was discovered that she was repeatedly raped as a toddler by her grandmother’s boyfriend. McCoy said Pike’s mother didn’t believe her that these rapes happened. > **[Time running out for Tennessee killer Christa Pike who says she's too damaged...](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6pwl9g9ne1lo)** > > Lawyers for Pike, who killed a fellow student in 1995, say she should get clemency and would not be sentenced to death if the crime happened today. Execution date is September 30. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/417 "2026-09-29T04:11:00Z")
> **[Man ordered released on bail after decades on Utah’s death row after DNA...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/28/us/douglas-carter-utah-death-row-released-dna)** > > A Utah judge has ordered a 71-year-old man to be released on bail after he spent decades on death row for a 1985 killing, despite objections from the victim’s family, after prosecutors said newly analyzed DNA evidence did not match him. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/418 "2026-09-29T19:57:30Z")
What’s the over/under for the DNA pointing to a member of the family – or maybe if it matched one of them, they would know it by now. The husband was a suspect, but he’s dead now. Then there’s the victim’s daughter, whose reaction was “just because the DNA doesn’t match him, doesn’t mean he wasn’t there.” (not verbatim) 1980’s police work at its finest. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/419 "2026-09-29T20:03:15Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Then there’s the victim’s daughter, whose reaction was “just because the DNA doesn’t match him, doesn’t mean he wasn’t there.” What matters is that clearly someone else _was_, and that at the very least should introduce reasonable doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/420 "2026-09-29T20:11:09Z")
She doesn’t seem to have any doubt. I wonder why. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/421 "2026-09-29T20:12:57Z")
I’m sure there’s a good reason why we don’t put a victim’s family members on a jury. 😆 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643.md?page=22)