# Miscarriage of Justice Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 4, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643 "2021-06-04T20:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/61 "2022-01-04T12:43:40Z")
Alabama, man. That is one crazy ass story. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/62 "2022-01-04T13:03:55Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > A man who stopped his wife from drunk driving has been arrested on manslaughter charges after his wife [was killed after being struck by a vehicle while she was walking home](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-who-stopped-wife-from-driving-drunk-charged-with-manslaughter-after-she-died-walking-home/ar-AASoQxA?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531). - Isn’t driving drunk a basic human right? /s ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/63 "2022-01-04T13:54:23Z")
> [@Emphasis added](#): > > **Jason Todd** , 42, allegedly refused to let his wife, Tanya Anderson, get behind the wheel of her car [while under the influence.](https://www.yourtango.com/news/are-alcohol-detection-systems-required-cars-us) Are we sure he wasn’t arrested for being the worst Robin? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/64 "2022-01-04T14:17:20Z")
The linked page will not display for me in Safari; it is demanding that I download Microsoft Edge. ETA: I tried on my iPhone and got > `BlobNotFound` The specified blob does not exist. RequestId:85565c1c-b01e-0025-6f76-01e4e8000000 Time:2022-01-04T14:19:29.0393880Z ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/65 "2022-01-04T14:19:39Z")
> [@Emphasis added](#): > > **Jason Todd** , 42, allegedly refused to let his wife, Tanya Anderson, get behind the wheel of her car Same here, [but found another source.](https://www.yourtango.com/crime/man-charged-manslaughter-after-refusing-let-wife-drive-drunk?amp) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/66 "2022-01-04T14:27:28Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Isn’t driving drunk a basic human right? /s I’ll tell you something and this is fact. Do you know why so many drunk drivers get in wrecks? It’s because they don’t _learn_ how to drive drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/67 "2022-01-04T14:50:32Z")
Try this: [Man stopped wife from driving drunk. Police charged him when she died walking home - al.com](https://www.al.com/news/2021/12/man-stopped-wife-from-driving-drunk-police-charged-him-when-she-died-walking-home.html) ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/68 "2022-01-04T14:59:15Z")
For those not following the links, the manslaughter charge was squashed/dismissed back in 2020 (death was in 2018). It’s back in the news because the husband is suing various people and entities involved in the death of his wife and the indictment. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/69 "2022-01-27T18:21:53Z")
This is fucking doubly heinous: [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/philadelphia-man-cleared-after-37-years-in-prison-sues-city/ar-AATd54B](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/philadelphia-man-cleared-after-37-years-in-prison-sues-city/ar-AATd54B) > “They used perjured evidence to convict him and then charged the perjurer, and never told him. And then Willie was warehoused for 38 years,” Diamondstein said They had a guy lie on the stand to convict him, then they prosecuted the guy that they got to lie on the stand. > In his view, the official misconduct stemmed from "institutional racism, or pure bias.” > > “The cases needed to be closed. The inner city minority were interchangeable, as long has you had someone in the defendant’s chair,” he said. Sad but true. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/70 "2022-03-24T18:27:51Z")
Another one I cannot wrap my head around. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/michigan-brothers-freed-after-spending-25-years-behind-bars-for-wrongful-murder-conviction/ar-AAVpMoc?ocid=EMMX](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/michigan-brothers-freed-after-spending-25-years-behind-bars-for-wrongful-murder-conviction/ar-AAVpMoc?ocid=EMMX) Prosecutors KNEW that Brandon Gohagen raped the victim. But Gohagen said The DeJesus brothers murdered her. Even though both brothers had confirmed alibis and there _no evidence_ that tied either brother to the crime scene. _ALL THEY HAD_ was a rapist’s word, which gave for a more favorable sentence. > Gohagen’s DNA was found at the crime scene, and he told authorities the DeJesus brothers _forced him_ to rape Midkiff and then murdered her, Moran said. What the Ever Loving Fuck??? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/71 "2022-03-24T19:43:26Z")
Let us not ever assume that cops and prosecutors are good guys. > **[New York City to Settle With 5 Over Wrongful Conviction Claims (Published 2016)](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/nyregion/new-york-city-settling-with-5-over-wrongful-murder-convictions-in-bronx.html)** > > The $40 million is for two cases in the Bronx that the district attorney said were linked: the fatal shootings of a livery cab driver and a Federal Express executive. 6 defendants, convicted only on the word of one eyewitness, spent decades in prison. Even though the eyewitness was a jilted lover of one of the dedendants and did not speak a word of English and the DATELINE TV program as able to show conclusively that the witness could not have seen or heard what she claimed to have seen or heard from where she claimed to have been at the time. And then, AND THEN…it was shown that 2 violent gang members of the Sex Money Murder gang (real name) had admitted to killing the livery driver. > He ultimately discovered that two former S.M.M. members, who years earlier became government cooperators in a separate case, had admitted to fatally shooting a livery cab driver in a case that matched Mr. Diop’s murder. Authorities made no attempt to free the Bronx 6, and did not contact their attorneys. They knew that they were innocent, and left them to rot. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/72 "2022-03-24T21:39:15Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > They knew that they were innocent, and left them to rot. “It’s not our job to get them **out** of jail…” 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/73 "2022-03-25T01:09:45Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > _ALL THEY HAD_ was a rapist’s word, which gave for a more favorable sentence. It didn’t help their case that they were Mexican. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/74 "2022-05-09T23:56:58Z")
> **[Man Wrongfully Imprisoned for 24 Years Gets $10.5M Settlement Amid...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-wrongfully-imprisoned-for-24-years-gets-10-5m-settlement-amid-allegations-of-detective-s-misconduct/ar-AAX5g0t?ocid=EMMX&cvid=3e14bc36b9fd4a5c8871612d77aae741)** > > Despite a lack of forensic evidence linking Shawn Williams, 47, to a murder, a woman's testimony alleging she spotted him at the Brooklyn crime scene holding a gun was enough to put him in prison for over two decades. All they had was one witness. Turned out that 2 cops threatened the witness to ID their suspect. Hell, beats having to go out and do your job, I guess. Cops suck. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/75 "2022-05-10T13:21:20Z")
In a perfect world, the cops would have to pay the money and then serve in prison for 24 years. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/76 "2022-05-11T01:19:12Z")
This is minor compared to the other posts in this thread, but it’s a true story and it’s bothered me for better than thirty years: I got a ticket once for making an “illegal” left turn into a shopping center parking lot. The only person within a thousand feet of the scene was the cop half hiding behind the building. Went to court to contest it. The cop actually showed up. The first six or seven cases to be heard were the same infraction as mine involving the same cop (so he could go back to work). The first three were found guilty, fined, assessed points and probably had their insurance hiked. Number four produced documentation that the traffic device (the “No Left Turn” sign) was bogus and his case was dismissed. My turn. I said Your Honor, same deal as the previous case and I was acquitted. The one or two after me were for the same infraction and were dismissed when they pointed out the mistake. I caught the cop out in the lobby and asked him if he was going to do anything about the first three “guilty” cases and he shrugged his shoulders and said he had to get back to work. And I didn’t know if I could have done anything further and I’ve felt a twinge of guilt for that ever since. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/77 "2022-05-11T10:33:33Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > I caught the cop out in the lobby and asked him if he was going to do anything about the first three “guilty” cases and he shrugged his shoulders and said he had to get back to work. Not the cop’s job - the judge is the one who should have cleared those cases when he dismissed the first one. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/78 "2022-05-11T14:50:35Z")
That’s a good point, thanks; he probably did later. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/79 "2022-05-11T19:11:15Z")
A step in the right direction: > **[Texas court orders that illegal voting conviction against Crystal Mason be...](https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1098318580/texas-court-orders-that-illegal-voting-conviction-against-crystal-mason-be-revie)** > > At the time Mason voted in 2016, she was on supervised release from prison after serving time on federal tax evasion charges. She received a five-year sentence for illegal voting. > According to the ruling Wednesday from the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, when a lower court upheld that conviction, it made a mistake by “failing to require proof that [Mason] had actual knowledge that it was a crime for her to vote while on supervised release.” ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/80 "2022-05-19T21:50:08Z")
Dunno about this one. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ex-deputy-gets-18-years-after-detainees-drown-in-locked-van/ar-AAXu2zK?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ex-deputy-gets-18-years-after-detainees-drown-in-locked-van/ar-AAXu2zK?li=BBnb7Kz) Seems like a horrible accident: > Flood’s lawyer said while it was a terrible tragedy, others were trying to unfairly blame just the former deputy instead of the equipment problems, the troops that waived them around the barricades and supervisors who knew dangerous flooding was starting and sent him even though taking the women to the mental health facilities was not an emergency. I think the man has a point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643.md?page=5)