# Miscarriage of Justice Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 4, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643 "2021-06-04T20:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/101 "2022-07-21T12:46:34Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The cop wanted to stop and interrogate the EMT who was **bringing in a fucking guy from an ambulance**. And he wanted to do this instead of whatever his original errand was that was so urgent he had to park in the wrong spot to do it. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/102 "2022-07-21T14:21:55Z")
I say gen-pop for that motherfucker. > [@](#): > > The files, contained in a public city database of proven Rochester police misconduct cases, show that LoTempio pleaded guilty in two separate incidents. The offenses included strip searching a man without a warrant and knocking a man’s teeth out with a flashlight during a traffic stop. > **[RPD investigator who handcuffed EMT has history of misconduct](https://www.roccitymag.com/news-opinion/rpd-investigator-who-handcuffed-emt-has-history-of-misconduct-14888468)** > > Charles LoTempio previously pleaded guilty to knocking a man's teeth out with a flashlight during a traffic stop and an unlawful search. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/103 "2022-07-21T14:25:58Z")
Those two incidents occurred in 2013 and he was promoted to investigator in 2015, so they don’t seem to have stalled his career in any way. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/104 "2022-07-21T14:30:05Z")
Thank you for the update, I’m glad this was straightened out, though she did spend a fair amount of time locked up for what is basically nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![ahduval](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahduval/32/11513_2.png) [@ahduval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ahduval)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/105 "2022-07-21T16:04:58Z")
[article](https://apnews.com/article/shootings-texas-gun-politics-houston-6a3d5489d49e8702ea94783b6aff95b2) Summary: Man was robbed at an ATM and the robber flees the scene. Man goes to his car to get a gun and shoots at a car thinking that it was the robber’s car. Shoots and kills a 9 year old girl. Grand jury in Texas cleared the man because of self-defense. Can I state that I hope that the shooter winds up paying in civil court, although it would still not be enough to compensate for the death of a child. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/106 "2022-07-21T16:28:52Z")
In Texas, someone getting away with $20 is justification to kill little girls. Sounds about right. I don’t see how it was self defense, as the thief was running away at the time. But I suppose that if he had managed to shoot him in the back, rather than shoot at a car that had nothing to do with it, he would have gotten a ticker tape parade. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/107 "2022-07-21T19:17:48Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > In Texas, someone getting away with $20 is justification to kill little girls. > > Sounds about right. To be fair? Also his car keys. But yeah. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/108 "2022-07-21T19:29:52Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > In Texas, someone getting away with $20 is justification to kill little girls. > > Sounds about right. - " But Judge, he needed killin’. And I prevented an abortion." ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/109 "2022-07-21T19:35:24Z")
Hey, to be fair, the girl was unarmed, and unarmed people are really scary. After all, one of them might steal your gun and shoot you! Anyone with a gun is obviously always justified in shooting anyone without a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/110 "2022-07-21T20:25:45Z")
“Shoot 'em in The Back!” - It’s just the Texas Way… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/111 "2022-07-21T21:55:13Z")
> “Mr. Earls did what we believe anyone in that situation would have done. We are relieved that, despite the emotion and tough decisions that had to be made in dealing with this case, justice was served for Mr. Earls,” his attorneys, Myrecia Donaldson and Brennen Dunn, said in a statement. Um, no. “Anyone in that situation” wouldn’t have opened fire on a truck when they can’t see who’s in the truck just because they think that someone who stole $20 _might_ have jumped in there. > Rick Ramos, the attorney for the Alvarez family, said Wednesday that Earls’ actions were reckless and he questioned whether Earls was capable of carrying a weapon as his lawyers had indicated in court records that he had suffered from mental illness before the shooting. > > But Thompson said issues of mental illness would not have made a difference in this case as Texas does not have [red flag laws](https://apnews.com/article/congress-jerrold-nadler-district-of-columbia-judiciary-government-and-politics-982c04dba1f131f4893d14ad010d31ca) that would allow law enforcement or family members to ask a judge to order the seizure or surrender of guns from someone who is deemed dangerous, often because of mental health concerns or threats of violence. Last year, [Texas lawmakers expanded gun rights](https://apnews.com/article/texas-gun-politics-health-coronavirus-pandemic-f6069888ee2de2441d8ab776e9fe45dc) by letting people carry handguns without first getting a background check and training. I know that the State Department issues travel warnings and bans to try to protect American travelers and keep them out of danger. When will they do the same for Texas? Because it seems like a lawless hellhole where you have few civil rights and human life means little to nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/112 "2022-07-21T22:09:00Z")
So if ya get robbed, you can shoot the first person that moves without consequences? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/113 "2022-07-21T22:25:07Z")
These guys are not happy you are trying to associate them with TX. [![](https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb5b9f46a5c5bf8243179d56b0) ](https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb5b9f46a5c5bf8243179d56b0) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/114 "2022-07-21T22:31:18Z")
I don’t think they even have to move. I you open your wallet and figure you might be missing a $20, it is self defence to just start shooting randomly into a crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/115 "2022-07-21T22:44:26Z")
At least one of them is dead; maybe two. And I’ve got an alibi for each and any of those days. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bm51ihfi1p4/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGHIgTSg1MA8=&rs=AOn4CLDqqnzhJs7eN6PWn22tSfWIlvnWKg "Ramones - I Wanna Be Sedated (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm51ihfi1p4) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/116 "2022-07-21T22:48:55Z")
None of the original four are alive. CJ and Marky, both longer term members are still alive. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/117 "2022-07-21T23:45:25Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > say gen-pop for that motherfucker. This asinine meme needs to disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/118 "2022-07-21T23:51:45Z")
As long as you are not a member of a minority, apparently there’s no problem. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/119 "2022-07-22T00:02:12Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > > > say gen-pop for that motherfucker. > > This asinine meme needs to disappear. What meme are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/120 "2022-07-22T00:46:23Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > None of the original four are alive. CJ and Marky, both longer term members are still alive. I swear to God that I had nothing to do with any of that. ( Hey, Nelson & Murdock… I need an attorney quick! I swear I’m getting framed here…! ) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643.md?page=7)