# Miscarriage of Justice Omnibus Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 4, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643 "2021-06-04T20:52:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/141 "2022-10-21T04:58:55Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> two notorioulsy corrupt police officers…

Needs to be WAY more specific…

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/142 "2022-10-25T14:50:02Z")

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As opposed to conventionally corrupt.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/143 "2022-12-13T18:42:41Z")

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> **[True-crime podcasters help free innocent men after 25 years in prison](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/true-crime-podcasters-help-free-innocent-men-after-25-years-in-prison/ar-AA15cEDQ?ocid=EMMX&cvid=9d6f3030234e4e74a7c4067e9d1751b2)**
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> Cain Joshua Storey and Darrell Lee Clark of Georgia were exonerated in the 1996 murder of 15-year-old Brian Bowling with the assistance of lawyers, and "Proof."

Two witnesses against them at trial.

One who is deaf and was confused by the ASL interpreter. He though he was testifying about another case. The other was coerced by cops

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/144 "2022-12-28T20:08:48Z")

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> **[Police, Prosecutors Used Junk Science To Decide 911 Callers Were Liars -...](https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/12/28/1714254/police-prosecutors-used-junk-science-to-decide-911-callers-were-liars)**
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> An anonymous reader shares a report: Tracy Harpster, a deputy police chief from suburban Dayton, Ohio, was hunting for praise. He had a business to promote: a miracle method to determine when 911 callers are actually guilty of the crimes they are...

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/145 "2022-12-28T23:57:20Z")

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I don’t know anything about this website, but the first line in the report is that it was shared by an anonymous reader. Is there any backup on this story? Before I get all, you know, exercised about it?

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/146 "2022-12-29T00:06:49Z")

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Slashdot is one of the original tech news aggregation sites, of which slashdotting derived from:

> **[Slashdot effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_effect)**
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> The Slashdot effect, also known as slashdotting, occurs when a popular website links to a smaller website, causing a massive increase in traffic. This overloads the smaller site, causing it to slow down or even temporarily become unavailable. This has the same effect as a denial-of-service attack, albeit accidentally. The name stems from the huge influx of web traffic which would result from the technology news site Slashdot linking to websites. The original circumstances have changed, as flash c...

But the article links to Propublica, which I probably should have linked to instead:

> **[ProPublica](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProPublica)**
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> ProPublica (/proʊˈpʌblɪkə/), legally Pro Publica, Inc., is a nonprofit organization based in New York City. In 2010, it became the first online news source to win a Pulitzer Prize, for a piece written by one of its journalists and published in The New York Times Magazine as well as on ProPublica.org. ProPublica states that its investigations are conducted by its staff of full-time investigative reporters, and the resulting stories are distributed to news partners for publication ProPublica was ...

So yes this is a legitimate news story.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/147 "2022-12-29T00:08:06Z")

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ninja’d

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/148 "2022-12-29T03:55:05Z")

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OK, thanks for the explanation.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/149 "2022-12-29T17:03:49Z")

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Here’s a direct link to the ProPublica story

> **[They Called 911 for Help. Police and Prosecutors Used a New Junk Science to...](https://www.propublica.org/article/911-call-analysis-fbi-police-courts)**
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> Tracing the fallacy of 911 call analysis through the justice system, from Quantico to the courtroom.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/150 "2023-02-15T07:31:54Z")

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> **[Judge vacates conviction of man imprisoned nearly 3 decades](https://apnews.com/article/wrongful-conviction-vacated-3eb7e5fbe6210dbc38b11995902b9947)**
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> ST. LOUIS (AP) — A Missouri judge on Tuesday overturned the conviction of a man who has served nearly 28 years of a life sentence for a killing that he has always said he didn't commit.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/151 "2023-03-02T03:26:35Z")

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> **[Editorial: He spent 38 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. It's a...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/editorial-he-spent-38-years-in-prison-for-a-crime-he-didn-t-commit-it-s-a-stain-on-our-justice-system/ar-AA186tQz?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=cdc299c4a4ca4f91b24de0fffa33fd10)**
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> The wrongful conviction and imprisonment of Maurice Hastings for nearly four decades underscores the justice system's responsibility to be careful when prosecuting defendants and the importance of reopening cases when exonerating evidence appears.

DNA tested in 2021 clears man who spent 38 years in prison. When he asked for a test of that DNA 23 years ago, they ‘couldn’t find it’. I wonder when they found it.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/152 "2023-03-16T08:36:02Z")

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> **[Florida man serving 400-year sentence freed after being exonerated for robbery](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/15/florida-man-serving-400-year-sentence-freed-exonerated)**
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> Sidney Holmes, who served 30 years, released after new inquiry found eyewitness identification was likely ‘misidentification’

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/153 "2023-04-21T02:40:44Z")

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[‘It’s finally over’: two men set free after wrongly serving 17 years in prison | California | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/20/dupree-glass-juan-rayford-freed-wrongly-convicted)

From an earlier article:

> The two young men were offered a plea deal of 15 years in prison but they maintained their innocence throughout.

[Black Teen, Now 32-Years Old, Still Serving 11 Life Sentences in Prison For Crime He Didn’t Commit | Houston Style Magazine | Urban Weekly Newspaper Publication Website](http://stylemagazine.com/news/2019/may/14/black-teen-now-32-years-old-still-serving-11-life-/)

So instead they went to trial and got 11 consecutive life sentences.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/154 "2023-05-26T15:55:17Z")

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> The exonerating evidence was disclosed during a 2017 parole hearing for one of Saldana’s codefendants, who told the parole board that not only did Saldana not participate in the shooting, but he wasn’t present at the time, Gascón said. The new information was not shared with Saldana or his attorney, Gascón said. It wasn’t until February that the statement from the parole hearing was presented to Gascón’s office by California’s Board of Parole Hearings

[https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/26/us/los-angeles-daniel-saldana-prison-sentence-exonerated/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/26/us/los-angeles-daniel-saldana-prison-sentence-exonerated/index.html)

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/155 "2023-06-05T19:23:14Z")

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> In each case, she was the person who found their bodies, though there was no physical evidence that she had caused their deaths. Instead, the jury relied on the prosecution’s argument that the chances of four babies from one family dying from natural causes before the age of 2 were so infinitesimally low as to be compared to pigs flying…
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> But another inquiry began last year after **new scientific evidence emerged that provided a genetic explanation for the children’s deaths**.

[https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/04/australia/australia-kathleen-folbigg-attorney-general-hnk-intl/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/04/australia/australia-kathleen-folbigg-attorney-general-hnk-intl/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/156 "2023-06-05T19:32:44Z")

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**Miscarriage** of Justice?!

🤨

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/157 "2023-06-05T21:32:53Z")

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I guess a dingo really did eat her babies.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/158 "2023-06-05T21:50:37Z")

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Later evidence and further autopsy concluded that [Lindy Chamberlain-Creighton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_Chamberlain-Creighton)’s daughter Azaria really was killed by a dingo.

I learned today from listening to NPR that Australia does not have an independent review board for convictions, which is one reason why it can be so difficult for people to be pardoned and/or for convictions to be overturned. Kathleen Folbigg was wrongfully convicted and had to wait 20 years for exoneration. A [similar case](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Clark) in the UK involved a woman who was convicted under very similar circumstances just a few years before Folbigg was, however that woman was released after a few years on appeal.

(Sadly, the trauma of being wrongly convicted severely damaged the woman’s psyche, and only a few years after being released from prison she literally drank herself to death.)

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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/159 "2023-06-06T13:01:42Z")

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I really cannot imagine the horror of having your children die one after another, and then having the whole world think you killed them.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/160 "2023-07-26T23:10:17Z")

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10 years in jail - waiting for trial (and more to come)

> **[Mistrial declared after man waits 10 years in jail for day in court](https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/07/21/after-10-years-jail-without-trial-mans-case-finally-jurys-hands/)**
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> Maurice Jimmerson's pretrial detention is longest in Georgia history and second longest in U.S., his attorney says.

> On Monday, a hung jury declared it was unable to reach a verdict in the trial of Maurice Jimmerson, the Georgia man who has been behind bars for 10 years while awaiting trial.
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> Jimmerson was remanded back to jail while he waits for a hearing next week about a possible reduction in bond. Because there was no verdict, Jimmerson could likely face an entire new trial.
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> Jimmerson’s co-defendant, Condell Benyard, who was incarcerated for seven years while awaiting trial. He was found not guilty of all 26 charges brought against him. Jimmerson also faced 26 charges.
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> Jimmerson’s attorney, Andrew Fleischman, said his client’s incarceration is the [longest pretrial detention](https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/05/31/you-dont-need-law-degree-know-somethings-wrong-here/) in Georgia history and the second longest in U.S. history. Fleischman is representing Jimmerson for free as a result of the coverage of the case from Atlanta News First Investigates.
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> “I’m old fashioned,” Fleischman said. “I think people should be convicted of a crime before they’re punished. This is an unprecedented case. This is about a core constitutional right, the right to a speedy trial. The right to due process. And, when you see people denied that right, the public needs to know about it.”

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