# Miscarriage of Justice Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 4, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643 "2021-06-04T20:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/161 "2023-07-27T23:19:39Z")
> **[They needed mental health care treatment. They were thrown in jail without...](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jul/27/mississippi-mental-health-treatment-jail-civil-commitment)** > > In Mississippi, serious mental illness can land you in jail, even if you aren’t charged with a crime. The state is a stark outlier in jailing so many people for so long, but many officials say they don’t have another option ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/162 "2023-08-07T21:08:00Z")
Woman arrested for car-jacking based on facial recognition software - funny that the victim didn’t mention the car-jacker was 8 months pregnant > **[Faulty facial recognition lands pregnant woman in jail for carjacking | Boing...](https://boingboing.net/2023/08/07/faulty-facial-recognition-lands-pregnant-woman-in-jail-for-carjacking.html)** > > Porcha Woodruff, a 32-year-old Black woman, was eight months pregnant when she was falsely arrested in February by Detroit police for robbery and carjacking, reports The New York Times. Police clai… > Handcuffed in front of her home on a Thursday morning last February, leaving her crying children with her fiancé, Ms. Woodruff was taken to the Detroit Detention Center. She said she was held for 11 hours, questioned about a crime she said she had no knowledge of, and had her iPhone seized to be searched for evidence. > > “I was having contractions in the holding cell. My back was sending me sharp pains. I was having spasms. I think I was probably having a panic attack,” said Ms. Woodruff, a licensed aesthetician and nursing school student. “I was hurting, sitting on those concrete benches.” > > After being charged in court with robbery and carjacking, Ms. Woodruff was released that evening on a $100,000 personal bond. In an interview, she said she went straight to the hospital where she was diagnosed with dehydration and given two bags of intravenous fluids. A month later, the Wayne County prosecutor dismissed the case against her. Very nearly a miscarriage of justice in deed. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/163 "2023-08-07T21:16:31Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Very nearly a miscarriage of justice in deed. Shit, that sounds like grounds for a lawsuit. The entire basis for arresting an extremely pregnant woman was face recognition software? That’s bullshit. Who issued that warrant?! ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/164 "2023-08-07T21:25:30Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > [Faulty facial recognition lands pregnant woman in jail for carjacking | Boing Boing](https://boingboing.net/2023/08/07/faulty-facial-recognition-lands-pregnant-woman-in-jail-for-carjacking.html) > **[A Detroit woman who says she was falsely arrested while 8 months pregnant...](https://www.insider.com/woman-sues-detroit-alleges-falsely-arrested-pregnant-facial-recognition-2023-8)** > > Police used facial recognition software, which often misidentifies Black people, to connect Porcha Woodruff to a crime she says she didn't commit. > Woodruff was arrested after a man went to Detroit Police and said he was the victim of a carjacking and robbery. > > The man told police he had sex with a woman named Trinidad, and afterward, they went to a local gas station, where he said the woman interacted with several individuals, a police report included in the lawsuit shows. After leaving, the victim said he was robbed and carjacked by a man who had been at the gas station. > > Woodruff’s attorneys say in the lawsuit that Detroit Police Detective Oliver used facial recognition technology on surveillance footage, which matched Woodruff to the woman in the video. > > The lawsuit says that police showed the man a lineup of photos of six women — including an eight-year-old photo of Woodruff — and he identified Woodruff as the woman he was with during the carjacking. > > Woodruff’s lawyers allege in the suit that there was no mention of the female suspect being pregnant during Oliver’s interactions with the victim. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/165 "2023-08-07T21:30:45Z")
Now, if that lawsuit goes through, I’d say that’s justice being brought to term. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/166 "2023-08-07T22:34:10Z")
An 8 year old photo??? The fuck?? If the story is accurate, the victim’s story is a little…fishy… ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/167 "2023-08-08T00:34:23Z")
I’m more suspect of them using surveillance footage for the facial recognition. Unless they got a close-up of the subject looking straight into a camera, there’s no way that footage would be detailed enough to do facial recognition with anything close to accuracy. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/168 "2023-08-08T01:59:21Z")
I know that the cameras at the place I work are so bad I wouldn’t recognize my best friend. I can’t believe that facial recognition could accurately make a match. It’s particularly interesting that no one ever mentioned she was pregnant. The victim of the crime had sex with the perpetrator, one would think that 8 mts. pregnant might have come up in his description of her to the police. Conversely, the arresting officers never told the victim that the person he identified, from an 8 year old photo, was 8\* mts. pregnant. It makes you wonder if they would have treated a white pregnant woman in such a way. My assumption is no. \*Completely non-sequitur: 8 is an oddly specific number in this story. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/169 "2023-08-19T17:10:48Z")
> **[Sheriff says he is 'ashamed' after five of his former deputies plead guilty...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/us/rankin-county-sheriff-torture-black-men-mississippi/index.html)** > > A Mississippi sheriff said he was “ashamed” and apologized after five of his former deputies pleaded guilty to charges related to the torture of two Black men. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/170 "2023-08-20T01:03:31Z")
What’s he ashamed of? Could it be he’s ashamed of their pleading, but not of the torture? ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/171 "2023-08-24T16:46:11Z")
> **[Teen who claims to be sex trafficking victim indicted in man's death](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9526405/Texas-teen-says-shes-sex-trafficking-victim-indicted-murder-man-purchased-her.html)** > > Zephaniah Trevino, 18, who has claimed to be a victim of sex trafficking has been indicted for murder in connection to the shooting death of Carlos Arajeni-Arriaza Morillo, 24, a man she said was her pimp. > **[Zephi Trevino Pleads Guilty to Murder, Receives 12-Year Sentence](https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/zephi-trevino-pleads-guilty-to-murder-sentenced-to-12-years-in-prison-17307323)** > > Zephaniah 'Zephi' Trevino will serve a 12-year sentence for her role in a case that garnered national attention from celebrities including Kim Kardashian. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/172 "2023-08-24T17:59:15Z")
I’m confused as to why she pleaded guilty, if indeed she wasn’t involved in the murder and was in fact herself a victim of trafficking from the killer. Something doesn’t seem right here. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/173 "2023-08-24T18:01:23Z")
At a guess, I haven’t opened the articles. But there was sufficient evidence that it was a revenge killing instead of self defense. ETA: i.e. She went outside of his area of control, acquired a weapon, then returned and killed him. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/174 "2023-08-24T18:09:24Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > She went outside of his area of control, acquired a weapon, then returned and killed him. Are you sure about that? > **[North Texas woman whose family says she was sex trafficked sentenced for...](https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article278461374.html)** > > Zephaniah Trevino pleaded guilty, but her family in 2020 said she was only at the scene of the killing because of the man who was selling her for sex. > The district attorney’s office said in the news release that Aguilera Baldenegro, Martinez and Trevino lured Murillo and another man, Christian Lobo, to the apartment. There, Aguilera Baldenegro and Martinez beat the two men with handguns and robbed them, and Aguilera Baldenegro ultimately shot and killed Murillo, authorities have said. > > Aguilera Baldenegro’s attorney told the Star-Telegram in 2020 that Aguilera Baldenegro shot and killed Murillo after he grabbed Trevino by the throat. The attorney, David Finn, also said that Trevino was not a trafficking victim and that he knew what to look for through his experience as a federal prosecutor who tried trafficking cases. Nobody is alleging that she killed anyone herself. She wasn’t armed. She was charged because authorities said she was used to lure the victims, including the one who was murdered. Did you read about the wrong case? In any event, she had originally been assigned a public defender, but then got attorneys who had civil rights experience, and the best they could do was a plea deal. So I suspect she didn’t have much if any evidence that she was a trafficking victim. If her claims were true this is horrible, but I have trouble reconciling that with a guilty plea. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/175 "2023-08-24T18:18:14Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Are you sure about that? No. As I stated in the first place, I haven’t read the articles. I was just positing a theory about why taking that plea deal was her safest outcome. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/176 "2023-08-24T18:18:54Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > No. As I stated in the first place, I haven’t read the articles. Ah, okay. No, your theory had nothing to do with what happened. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/177 "2023-09-13T17:10:53Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-sentenced-to-probation-after-wife-recorded-fight-that-ended-with-her-found-dead-near-stadium/ar-AA1gCSVR?ocid=windirect&cvid=15db78bedd47416aa30c2377f28ad867&ei=2](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-sentenced-to-probation-after-wife-recorded-fight-that-ended-with-her-found-dead-near-stadium/ar-AA1gCSVR?ocid=windirect&cvid=15db78bedd47416aa30c2377f28ad867&ei=2) What the everlovin’ hell? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/178 "2023-09-13T23:32:50Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bullied-student-beaten-to-death-by-teens-died-after-sucker-punch-in-attack-posted-online/ar-AA1gFSOp?ocid=windirect&cvid=ea9d8975dc0c4c83a89aac7f9a73ef03&ei=31](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bullied-student-beaten-to-death-by-teens-died-after-sucker-punch-in-attack-posted-online/ar-AA1gFSOp?ocid=windirect&cvid=ea9d8975dc0c4c83a89aac7f9a73ef03&ei=31) 2 bullys beat a kid to death. And get probation. > He spectated that they would meet more “mature and sophisticated criminals” who would be a bad influence on them. Bad influence? They are already killers! I can only assume “mature and sophisticated criminals” means black kids. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/179 "2023-09-27T15:26:50Z")
> **[DNA testing leads to exoneration of California man imprisoned nearly 3...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/27/us/california-man-exonerated-kidnapping-assault-gerardo-cabanillas/index.html)** > > After a California man spent nearly three decades in prison for kidnapping, sexual assault and robbery convictions, new DNA testing has revealed he was innocent of those crimes, a prosecutor announced. Dirty cop lies to suspect, coerces false confession, then pollutes police lineup identification. But WTF?? We had DNA science in 1995!!! Why did they not test it??? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miscarriage-of-justice-omnibus-thread/943643/180 "2023-09-27T16:19:28Z")
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