A separate thing.
Totally looked to me like he was trying to distract the officer so he could attack him.
He was 6 feet away, with his back to the cop, one hand on the truck, one hand straight up in the air.
Whether or not “driver does B” deserves a tasing depends on what B is. The mere fact that B isn’t A is not justification for trying to incapacitate someone with an electric shock.
B needs to be something that genuinely deserves a violent response, but cops in the US often go to the violent response when B is annoying, inconvenient, or simply not what they want. I’m fucking sick of it.
Ridiclous!
Clearly this,
is just a roadside chiropractic adjustment.
Cure had already pulled away from the officer twice. According to many guides, this constitutes active resistance and poses a risk of escalation to violence by the subject. Cure’s hostile statements and refusal to comply with verbal instructions to put his hands on the truck (or behind his back), taken by themselves, do not constitute active resistance - but taken together with his prior instances of pulling away, and his size and muscular build, Cure would have presented a significant risk to the officer’s safety if the officer had attempted to physical force Cure into handcuffs.
While the shocks are happening, it’s generally not physically possible to do much at all. Use of force guides advise that the after a volley of shocks ends, the subject should be given time to recover their wits and comply with commands. In Cure’s case, it doesn’t look like the electrode darts were well-positioned, as he remains standing throughout the entire volley of shocks (rigidly falling over seems to be the typical response for most people hit with a taser). When the shocks stop, he’s not disoriented/overwhelmed; he doesn’t need a moment to collect his wits, he immediately turns to go after the officer. He’s not even trying to get away; there’s a moment later where he’s free of the officer’s grasp, but comes back to attack him some more. He’s busy trying to fold the officer’s head back against his spine when the officer finally draws his gun and fires a single shot.
After attempting to use his baton.
Who writes these guides? Were they written by the same folks who have killed 20,000 Americans in the last 20 years? Of course they were, because they’re the “experts” who are training our police forces to be excessively violent.
Is there someone out there who would have a better idea of what behaviors identify a subject who poses an elevated risk of resorting to violent resistance?
Well, maybe law enforcement experts from a different place that doesn’t kill their own citizens by the truckload?
It’s a thought.
Somehow the UK deals with violent drunken assholes all the time, and have killed fewer people in the last 20 years than our country’s LEOs have killed in the last month.
Police kill a pedestrian with their car and toss the body in a pauper’s grave without notifying the family. Autopsy finds his wallet with name and address still in his pocket
Absent from that article is any indication that there is an investigation for cops who killed a guy with their car.
Yes that absence does stand out
Umm, a police precinct is known for corruption. How exactly does that work? Do they get nominated, then win a trophy, at the Policeman’s Ball?
Yes, I’ve heard they don’t have balls. Don’t fight the hypothetical.
Many male officers have kids. Doesn’t that mean that at least those particular officers have balls?
Excellent point. I assumed their kids were taken from young couples they arrest.
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This should be in the controversial encounters thread, not the miscarriage of justice thread, although it’s not all that controversial, I suppose, unless someone is going to try and defend this cop.
“Sure, the kid was 11, but he dressed like a 14 year old”.
Yeah, I realized my mistake a bit too late. Sorry about that