# Misogynist lyrics/songs from the pre-hip-hop era **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 23, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880 "2006-08-23T13:37:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/41 "2006-08-23T22:55:25Z")
Shelley Fabares - Johnny Get Angry (also by Hal David) _Oh, Johnny get angry, Johnny get mad Give me the biggest lecture I ever had I want a brave man, I want a cave man Johnny, show me that you care, really care for me_ ---
**Author:** ![Jean\_Poutine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a5b964/32.png) [@Jean\_Poutine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jean_Poutine)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/42 "2006-08-23T23:02:38Z")
Ahhh…Gary Puckett. Any truth to the rumor he is John Mark Karr’s favorite singer 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/43 "2006-08-24T00:59:16Z")
My contribution is a Todd Rundgren song, **We gotta get you a woman** , which contains the wonderful line, “She may be stupid, but she sure is fun”. I wonder if he’s ever publicly apologized for the meanspiritedness of this song. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/44 "2006-08-24T02:09:47Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] You’ll have to spell this one out for me. The lyrics you cite are about how much James Taylor likes a woman. How is that sexist? [/QUOTE] All right. Let’s say you’re a guy. The woman you love sings to you, “When you give me that pretty little pout it turns me inside out – because I love you.” Does this warm the cockles of your heart? I mean, I can picture a girly-girl type going all warm and liquid at this sentiment. That’s why it’s sexist. I didn’t mean to imply that it was bad. I did mean to imply that I didn’t think much of it, even back when I was young and tender and not such a cranky grouch. As opposed to an equal opportunity love song. Maybe I’ll think of one in a minute. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/45 "2006-08-24T03:10:06Z")
I’m pretty sure that song was written for Taylor’s daughter…when she was, like, three. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/46 "2006-08-24T03:31:27Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] A friend of mine had an album wiht a Robert Johnson song called “Red Lip My Doodlewang.” It wasn’t really misogynist, though. [/QUOTE] Uh, I don’t know if you’re remembering incorrectly, or if it was a strange misattribution, but I’m pretty sure Robert Johnson (at least not the one I’m thinking of…y’know, “The King of the Delta Blues”) never recorded a song by that name. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/47 "2006-08-24T03:46:02Z")
I know I’ve heard “doodlewang” before, but ah doo nah theenk eet meens hwatchoo theenk eet meens. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/48 "2006-08-24T03:52:55Z")
[QUOTE=Hilarity N. Suze] All right. Let’s say you’re a guy. [/quote] Seems a reasonable hypothesis, for the sake of argument, but I reserve the right to object at any time. > [@](#): > > The woman you love sings to you, “When you give me that pretty little pout it turns me inside out – because I love you.” Does this warm the cockles of your heart? Sure. Means I don’t have to buy her anything to get that effect. Cool. She likes me 'cause I’m cute. I’d put my fingers in a strand of hair and twirl it, too, if that would help. The vacant look on my face … it’s all natural! > [@](#): > > I mean, I can picture a girly-girl type going all warm and liquid at this sentiment. That’s why it’s sexist. I didn’t mean to imply that it was bad. Well, I perceived it more as an expression of tender romantic feelings or extreme affection rather than a description of how a woman should behave. It’s more like two young lovers goofing around in the throes of young love than anything you need to take seriously. > [@](#): > > I did mean to imply that I didn’t think much of it, even back when I was young and tender and not such a cranky grouch. Hey, nobody ever said you were cranky. > [@](#): > > As opposed to an equal opportunity love song. Maybe I’ll think of one in a minute. … doesn’t quite scan right, but I think I’m on the right track … When you give me that knowing look I feel increased solidarity Because I respect you As an equal in the march to glorious sexual egalitarianism and increased understanding with oppressed peoples of all the world Yes I do! ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/49 "2006-08-24T04:00:44Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] … doesn’t quite scan right, but I think I’m on the right track … When you give me that knowing look I feel increased solidarity Because I respect you As an equal in the march to glorious sexual egalitarianism and increased understanding with oppressed peoples of all the world Yes I do! [/QUOTE] \ \ BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/50 "2006-08-24T04:17:26Z")
[QUOTE=Loopydude] I’m pretty sure that song was written for Taylor’s daughter…when she was, like, three. [/QUOTE] Never too young to start objectifying them . . . ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/51 "2006-08-24T05:29:01Z")
Songs don’ come more mysogynistic than the Fabulous Thunderbirds’ “How Do You Spell Love ( M-O-N-E-Y)”, a rant about how women are nothing but greedy whores and leeches who just use men for meal tickets. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/52 "2006-08-24T05:44:35Z")
Wang Dang Sweet Poontang… ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/53 "2006-08-24T06:09:12Z")
I was a teenager in the 1950’s, but this romantic lyric from the 1930’s (I think) was what I was taught that all men wanted in a woman: (Excerpts) “The girl that I marry will have to be as soft and as pink as a nursury. The girl I call my own will wear satin and laces and smell of cologne. Her nails will be polished and in her hair she’ll wear a gardenia…A doll I can carry, the girl that I marry must be.” It’s so sexist --which is admittedly different from what the OP asked for.) ---
**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/54 "2006-08-24T08:40:35Z")
The sond Der Trihs is thinking about is “He Hit Me (And It Felt Like a Kiss)” by the Crystals. Bizarrely enough, it was co-written by Carole King. ---
**Author:** ![LateComer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@LateComer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LateComer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/55 "2006-08-24T13:01:04Z")
The first thing that came to my mind when opening this thread was AC/DC’s “The Jack.” Honorable mention to “Dirty Deeds” (“Gotta lady and you want her gone . . .”) and Soul Stripper: > [@](#): > > And when she had me hollow and naked > That’s when she put me down > Pulled out a knife and flashed it before me > Stuck it in and turned it around ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/56 "2006-08-24T14:02:15Z")
I always thought that _Getting Better All the Time_ was intended as sarcasm–snark in spades. I thought the guy “doing the best that I can” wasn’t really trying. Re Mary Chapin Carpenter–love that song. It’s a savage look at the death of dreams and also a pointed commentary on role expectations. All this from a pop song. Who sang the one about “really love your peaches, wanna shake your tree?” Ugh–sexist, but not misogynistic. I never thought James Taylor was singing to his 3 year old. The rest of the song really doesn’t fit with her as the focus, no? I never liked that “pretty lil pout” line either. I liked the PC version posted here, though… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/57 "2006-08-24T14:04:42Z")
[QUOTE=Zoe] I was a teenager in the 1950’s, but this romantic lyric from the 1930’s (I think) was what I was taught that all men wanted in a woman: (Excerpts) “The girl that I marry will have to be as soft and as pink as a nursury. The girl I call my own will wear satin and laces and smell of cologne. Her nails will be polished and in her hair she’ll wear a gardenia…A doll I can carry, the girl that I marry must be.” It’s so sexist --which is admittedly different from what the OP asked for.) [/QUOTE] That’s from _Annie Get Your Gun_ --beautiful melody. Needs a change in lyrics. How about songs from _Grease_? Perhaps not so much openly misogynistic as celebratory of the thuggish behavior for guys (a real pussy wagon etc). ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/58 "2006-08-24T15:11:21Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Country music is full of sexism and misogyny. From “Attitude Adjustment” by Hank Williams Jr: [/QUOTE] I can’t imagine where he gets that sexism from: > [@](#): > > The way to keep a woman happy > And doin’ what’s right > Is to love her every morning > And bawl her out at night ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/59 "2006-08-24T15:15:37Z")
[QUOTE=eleanorigby] Who sang the one about “really love your peaches, wanna shake your tree?” [/QUOTE] Are you talking about [The Clovers](http://leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php;jsessionid=BD0684DE98EA15670D67F87B90EDE1E0?hid=fJlRfG%2FKG7w%3D)? Probably [Steve Miller](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_065.html). ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880/60 "2006-08-24T18:57:31Z")
I don’t think it’s sexist or misogynist to express physical attraction to a woman. For instance, I’m pleased that my husband likes my peaches and I don’t assume that if he says so, it means he thinks I’m stupid or his property or anything like that. I wouldn’t assume it unless he actually said it, and then I’d laugh and tell him to get back to washing the dishes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynist-lyrics-songs-from-the-pre-hip-hop-era/369880.md?page=4)